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Originally Posted by bobj3 See the item below
Bj 
Hi Tom and Harry
All I'm saying is it's not the same , If I ask you to carve a pine tree and you carved a elm tree,,, hummmmm ,it's not the same both are trees but not the same.
If I gave you a pattern and I ask you to copy it,,,,and you came back with one that was almost the same but not like the one I gave you.
But you did a great job doing your tree.
Maybe we should ask Charles M. ( forum member ) to take the pattern you posted and put it in his new CarveWright machine and make one just to show how it should look when you use a real carve router to make it.
If you get some time go to the CarveWright web site and look at some of the items this machine as made, all I can say is WOW, it was done with a router bit and a machine that you and I can now buy without paying $15,000.oo or more for a CNC router setup.
It's a new age of routers and computers and it's only get better for the small wood shop.
If you want to play you must step up to the pump so to speak just like the computers.
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Well Bob
Even in your edited post you still have not answered the question put to you that was to explain what all the arrows were on the drawing. I am still at a loss as to what you were trying to say. I am sure Harry would be the same. Or maybe I am wrong.
All I'm saying is it's not the same
, If I ask you to carve a pine tree and you carved a elm tree,,, hummmmm ,it's not the same both are trees but not the same.
But you did a great job doing your tree.
All this jargon posted as an answer above has little to no relevance to the challenge that was posted. We were only working with a little piece of the tree whether it was Pine or an elm or my favourite Timber Jarrah.
If I gave you a pattern and I ask you to copy it,,,,and you came back with one that was almost the same but not like the one I gave you.
I did not give anyone a pattern and ask them to copy it, I gave everyone an opportunity to look at a new method of using the router without the need to spend $1990 on a carving machine. What I was trying to do is create a little more interest in the use of the router. Could it be done??? well the answer is yes in my opinion.
Maybe we should ask Charles M. ( forum member ) to take the pattern you posted and put it in his new CarveWright machine and make one just to show how it should look when you use a real carve router to make it.
Bob you are defeating the purpose of this posting.
There is no doubt in my mind that Charles M could make one and do it much quicker than I can on his expensive machine. (Maybe not expensive to him as all he wants to do is carve, if that was all I wanted to do I would purchase one myself)
My idea for the posting was to stimulate some interest in using the tools we can afford. Just as a matter of interest, the machine was designed specifically for carving and not to complete all the other projects we can produce with other machinery. So really it also has its limitations.
I would emagine that most members of the forum are what I would call novices (It would be good to do a poll update to find out) and they are looking for new ideas on how to use the router. I have been working with wood for over 50 years I do not class myself as a novice.
There are adequate posting in all forums regarding the use of the router table and any new member to the forum would think that was the only way to use the router because they have been guided by others who believe that is the only way to go.
But you did a great job doing your tree.
Bob
I am not sure if this is a backhanded compliment, or not, as I am not sure if you are referring to your Pine or elm try or my attempt to create some interest in a new form of routing.
It's a new age of routers and computers and it's only get better for the small wood shop.
If you want to play you must step up to the pump so to speak just like the computers.
Bob... Such fine encouraging words for any newcomer to routing if I interpret what you are saying. "If you do not have all the latest machinery you would best lay woodwork alone" I have tried to answer most postings relating to the questions submitted with written (Lately verbal since I was introduced to Skype) and photographic evidence of my answer and I do believe that is what we, so called "woodwork professionals" should do. There may be some need to refer others to the various websites but any new members are usually new to computing as well and find it daunting going from one site to another and in some instances it is only a 'For Sale' site and they are still in doubt as they do not get an answer to their question.
We should be prepared to reply to their questions if we can with the proper solutions if we have the answer. I do not consider I know all the answers as we are never too old to learn
Enclosed is details of my woodworking background which may be of interest to those with specific questions to a problem. Might be a good idea to start a library with all the others who continually answer posts
[B
]Completed a Five year apprenticeship in Carpentry and Joinery
Attended teachers Training College for two years and qualified as a 'Technical Teacher'[/B]
Taught in High schools for 30 Years woodwork metalwork and technical drawing. In that time I introduced photography into the system.
Conducted a cabinet making Business for 15 years after resigning from the education department.
Came out of retirement to take a class of Blind people for one year how to do woodwork and introduce them to the router.
I have travelled round Australia giving demonstration at some of the various wood shows in each state. This was done over a period of ten years or more
I have produced some written work on the subject.
Example I Tried to reload "Introduction to Template guides"
My apology for the long posting. I tried to be polite as possible as I did not want to offend anyone. With the experience I have listed above I object being told 'How to suck eggs'
Tom