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Guys I was wondering what the best computer and software options are for running a CNC router table.
I will be dedicating this computer to the CNC router table , and use another computer in the house for modelling .
I have a copy of XP and 7 , but I don't think modern day computers motherboards will support XP , and not sure about windows 7 .
I'm concerned that there's to many applications running in the background for windows 10 to work reliably .

At CNCrouterparts , one of there recommendations was installing a PCIe card with a parallel port ,and another was to use the USB port with a Smooth Stepper .
I like those options better than buying an old refurbished computer with a parallel port ,and ideally I'd like to intergrate a computer into the same case as the rest of the electronics using one of those smaller mother boards.

I was originally going to go with Mach 3 or 4 , but heard that CUCNC was a better program ? I don't know if that influences the choices of computer or operating software though .
Anyways I'm curious to hear what has worked out well for others

I don't actaully know anything about CNC router tables , but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night

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Mine runs https://planet-cnc.com/milling/ CNCUSB on a Win 10 machine. The CPU isn't much, it was a very inexpensive government surplus machine, 2 core I think, most always not connected to a network.

The inside machine runs the CAM software, it is a quad core 64 bit machine. It needs to be a robust machine to generate the 3D models. Once it generates the g code I put it on a USB stick and take it out to the other computer.
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Mine runs https://planet-cnc.com/milling/ CNCUSB on a Win 10 machine. The CPU isn't much, it was a very inexpensive government surplus machine, 2 core I think, most always not connected to a network.

The inside machine runs the CAM software, it is a quad core 64 bit machine. It needs to be a robust machine to generate the 3D models. Once it generates the g code I put it on a USB stick and take it out to the other computer.
Doug I have a fairly good computer for the modelling part , and like you I will be using another computer for running the CNC machine , and also keep it off the network .

If your having no issues with windows 10 , that's good to hear . I was concerned it had too many things running in the background to work properly for a dedicated CNC computer.
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Dan I looked everywhere and can't find that one . Not even at NCIX in Van ?

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Doug I have a fairly good computer for the modelling part , and like you I will be using another computer for running the CNC machine , and also keep it off the network .

If your having no issues with windows 10 , that's good to hear . I was concerned it had too many things running in the background to work properly for a dedicated CNC computer.
How I miss my XP
I have the machine in the garage full time, I ran the CNC from a Toshiba Satellite dual core 2 ghz running windows 10 for a while, but worried that the machine would go to 'sleep' on a long cut.

The CPU is disconnected from the internet when I am doing anything so the system can't download any updates, etc when an operation is going on. Plus, a desktop is a lot easier to clean out than a laptop. The computer functions as a great stereo when the machine isn't running. The keyboard and mouse are wireless, VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, since I can actually have the mouse right close to me when I am setting the 0,0,0 points.

So far no issues with sawdust getting into anything as far as I can tell.
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All of the CNCs made by Probotix come with a PC running Linux and LinuxCNC as the controller software. I was not familiar with Linux before buying my Meteor CNC from them but have to say that I trust end respect how reliable and useful it is now that I've been running my own and 2 other CNCs from them. The greatest feature I hadn't expected was Linux's ability to read keyboard jogging input from more than one key at a time. Up arrow to move +Y, Down to move -Y, Right to move +X and Left to move -X or you can press down and left at the same time to move -X-Y at the same time, etc.. You can dynamically lift one finger off a key while leaving the other on, then use your second finger to hit a different second key to move in a different direction, all without being frustrated by windows key interrupt single key at a time strategy.

LinuxCNC also has a great dynamic real time 3D preview of the g-code and machine progress while cutting. The OS and LinuxCNC are both free. You can buy a PC (less monitor/keyboard/mouse) pre-configured with Linux and LinuxCNC from them here if interested: PROBOTIX LinuxCNC Control PC. They also sell a controller you can use to drive your own steppers that works great with LinuxCNC over parallel connection.

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All of the CNCs made by Probotix come with a PC running Linux and LinuxCNC as the controller software. I was not familiar with Linux before buying my Meteor CNC from them but have to say that I trust end respect how reliable and useful it is now that I've been running my own and 2 other CNCs from them. The greatest feature I hadn't expected was Linux's ability to read keyboard jogging input from more than one key at a time. Up arrow to move +Y, Down to move -Y, Right to move +X and Left to move -X or you can press down and left at the same time to move -X-Y at the same time, etc.. You can dynamically lift one finger off a key while leaving the other on, then use your second finger to hit a different second key to move in a different direction, all without being frustrated by windows key interrupt single key at a time strategy.

LinuxCNC also has a great dynamic real time 3D preview of the g-code and machine progress while cutting. The OS and LinuxCNC are both free. You can buy a PC (less monitor/keyboard/mouse) pre-configured with Linux and LinuxCNC from them here if interested: PROBOTIX LinuxCNC Control PC. They also sell a controller you can use to drive your own steppers that works great with LinuxCNC over parallel connection.

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That's interesting 4D, as I believe I read something about someone using a Probotix configured computer at CNC Zone .
Thanks, I'll have to check it out . Never worked with Linux before , but I've heard of it for years , and it would certainly make more sense , as I suspect it's not running a bunch of unnecessary crap in the background like Windows




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I have the machine in the garage full time, I ran the CNC from a Toshiba Satellite dual core 2 ghz running windows 10 for a while, but worried that the machine would go to 'sleep' on a long cut.

The CPU is disconnected from the internet when I am doing anything so the system can't download any updates, etc when an operation is going on. Plus, a desktop is a lot easier to clean out than a laptop. The computer functions as a great stereo when the machine isn't running. The keyboard and mouse are wireless, VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, since I can actually have the mouse right close to me when I am setting the 0,0,0 points.

So far no issues with sawdust getting into anything as far as I can tell.
Doug I'm really liking the wireless idea
I was also concerned about the computer going into sleep mode . With my old XP computer I knew how to configure it so that would never happen . Not so confident with Windows 10
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Rick, beltramidave is using Linux to run his new machine from Nate. I do believe they are old Probotix controls, but not sure. I'm waiting to see how it works to see if I want to attempt something like that or stick to the much easier "plug and play".
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sleep settings with windows hasn't really changed after windows 7 or 8 or 10....under power options
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Guys I didn't know windows 7 was still available and supported. I'm thinking I should buy a copy before there long gone .

I also watched a video on Linux , and it looked a lot like working in DOS to me ?
Just different command lines

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