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post #11 of 31 (permalink) Old 01-05-2017, 09:09 PM
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Good point Herb. I ruined a blade like that before I took the time to learn about the right blade for the right application. I do have a tendency to get lazy about changing blades sometimes but I leave my rip blade on to do multi tasking with the TS, not one of my finish blades or crosscut blades. I also keep some blades that are too crappy for nice jobs and switch to them if I have to cut something that's questionable (as in dirt, grit, or hidden metal).
I clean everything up with hand tools before it ever sees the TS...

And yes, having a number of blades is excellent advice!
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Here's a pretty good chart explaining which grinds are best for various jobs. https://vermontamerican.com/circular...y-grind-types/

You should have a ripping blade and a finish blade at least. If you use a miter saw you should have a miter saw blade which is usually a tooth with zero* or negative degree hook. I have some goods ones and I tried one on some melamine on my table saw and it cut beautifully. I was afraid the negative 6* hook might try and lift the small piece I tried it on but it wasn't a problem. On a miter saw the negative hook will help keep the board on the miter table.

If you are going to need to crosscut boards wider than a miter saw then you'll need a crosscutting blade although a fine finish blade will probably be okay for that. Most of those are ATB style grinds.

For cutting plywood or melamine a dedicated melamine/plywood blade is a better idea and they are usually a Hi ATB or a Triple Chip Grind or a combination of those. The Hi ATB will have an approximately 30* bevel on the teeth from side to side and the pointy tips shear the fiber at the sides of the cut first but the downside is that those pointy tips wear faster.
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Just by looking at the picture who ever wrote this thread wasn't a woodworker. The most important thing is to use the right blade for the right task and the picture shows a crosscut blade on a table saw ripping a board. Even shows the burn marks from a blade that has too many teeth making a rip cut.
And to top it off the article doesn't even mention that the blade has to match the cut.

Just shaking my head every time I sign on and see that picture.
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good catch Herb...
and where is the comprehensive information on selecting the right blade for the job/saw and why.....

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Here's a pretty good chart explaining which grinds are best for various jobs. https://vermontamerican.com/circular...y-grind-types/
too bad that article/chart didn't cover rakes/hook angles and really delve into application......
for the new guy it's woefully incomplete....

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Agreed it could do more but it's a starting point and it does show the tooth pattern and describe what it's best used for. I didn't see an article that covered all of it.

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good catch Herb...
and where is the comprehensive information on selecting the right blade for the job/saw and why.....
That picture reminds me of when Black & Decker came out with their wormdrive saws to compete with the Skilsaw, they ran full page ads in all the trade magazines.
It showed the saw from the blade side, and the big B&D logo on the blade,..............but the blade was on backwards.

The reason being is that the logos were printed on the opposite sides of the blades in those days because most of the circular saws had the blade on the other side of the saw.

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Agreed it could do more but it's a starting point and it does show the tooth pattern and describe what it's best used for. .
a new body will read that and believe that is all there is to know...

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I didn't see an article that covered all of it
I know it it can be a long shot but just do a search here for that information...
it's been covered many times in the past.. in hyper detail... by many... that nobody ever read...
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Too many hits for saw blade or just blade for something quick. I had to go with google. Maybe one of us should put together a sticky thread that stays at the top of a category? That, glues, and maybe some others when there is time. I see too many people say they use T3 for everything and it isn't always the best choice or sometimes even a good choice.

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Too many hits for saw blade or just blade for something quick. I had to go with google. Maybe one of us should put together a sticky thread that stays at the top of a category? That, glues, and maybe some others when there is time. I see too many people say they use T3 for everything and it isn't always the best choice or sometimes even a good choice.
the search function here sure leaves a lot to be desired...
search - try > hook angle.... or > blade criteria...

stickies... that's been asked for for a long time....

Chuck... I have seen you write volumes on these subjects...

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Too many hits for saw blade or just blade for something quick. I had to go with google. Maybe one of us should put together a sticky thread that stays at the top of a category? That, glues, and maybe some others when there is time. I see too many people say they use T3 for everything and it isn't always the best choice or sometimes even a good choice.
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