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Old 09-29-2004, 07:07 PM   #21
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I really liked your post, and even tried to download and print it. However, with the exception of the first one, the picture attachments wouldn't copy to the Word Perfect document that I was creating, although they downloaded and displayed nicely on the monitor. The post is not too helpful without the pictures.

Could you post this information again in a form that can be downloaded and printed?

Thanks either way.
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I'm not to sure what happened when you attemped to download the images but they are just simple .jpg images. I would say try again and see if it works this time. I am not a Word Perfect user but I would think if one image worked the others should as well.

How did you attemp the download? I'm a netscape user so if that is what you are using to download I can help you with that (if that is the problem).

Let us know how things go.

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Old 09-29-2004, 07:09 PM   #22
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Ed thanks for postig the attachments, it is really helpful and a time saver.
That's great, more time spent having fun in the shop is what it is all about.

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Old 09-29-2004, 08:01 PM   #23
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[quote=reible]If you have been reading posts here you will have heard a lot about this subject. A lot of you maybe thinking about trying a project but they all look to hard. And then there is that trying to figure out what bit and what template guide to use…….. “Now I made the pattern a ¼” larger so I’ll pick out the…… Oh to heck with it let’s see what on TV”.


I still need help. I am so new to routers that I do not understand all I read in the forum. For instance is the template guide bushing part of the router bit or is it a separate fixture. Your help is appreciated.
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Old 09-29-2004, 08:48 PM   #24
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The bushing is not part of the bit. Bushings are sold seperate of the bits.

A little time spent browsing the stuff at oakparks website should familiarize you with the different router tools and accessories.
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Old 09-30-2004, 01:10 AM   #25
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If you have been reading posts here you will have heard a lot about this subject. A lot of you maybe thinking about trying a project but they all look to hard. And then there is that trying to figure out what bit and what template guide to use…….. “Now I made the pattern a ¼” larger so I’ll pick out the…… Oh to heck with it let’s see what on TV”.


I still need help. I am so new to routers that I do not understand all I read in the forum. For instance is the template guide bushing part of the router bit or is it a separate fixture. Your help is appreciated.
You know none of us started out knowing about routers, but asking questions, watching shows like the Router Workshop, New Yankee Workshop, taking trips to the library where you can get books on routeing, or check out the magazines is a good start. Of course this fourm is another good place, a lot of helpful people.

I would also look for the thread about other on-line stores, some of which would be more then will to send you free catalogs, and as has been suggested even look at catalogs helps you learn.

Feel free to keep asking.

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I would like to send congratulations to Reible for his effort in explaining how to obtain the off-set when using the guides. He has certainly attracted a great deal of interest. If I were to do the same I could only do it in metric as it is over 35 years since we made the change over, here in Australia , though I fully understand the imperial set up as I was brought up using it I find it easier to use the metric measurement.

I have been using template guides for years in fact I consider them to be the most important accessory we received with the router at the time of purchase.

We have to find a more accurate method of producing the elliptical shaped template and I suppose this is what puts many router users 'off' when it comes to template making.

Here is a simple solution to the problem.
Visit your local craft store and select an elliptical cut-out shape near to the dimensiond you require and use that as your pattern to produce a smaller shape with the aid of a template guide and straight cutter. If the original pattern is too large use the new template to rout another and so and so on till you get near to what tou are looking for.

Not so simple method [i][u]
Rout an elliptical shape with an 'Elliptical cutting Jig' Bought or simply make your own. One of the problems you will find is that you will only be able to produce a shape that will be greater than you require. Ok then simply produce one smaller using the method above. That is what I have been doing for years.

Once we have mastered the preparation of the template we are then able to produce Elliptical Trinket Boxes as shown in enclosed pic 180mm x 100mm x 35mm approx

Sorry I Will have to produce a new posting to submit photograph
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Ed and Tom
Thanks so much for your helpful advice, much appreciated. I haven't done much template work at all, but am interested to try more. Keep explaining things please, there's always so much to learn. So much wood, so little time!

~Julie~
P.S.Tom, your box is beautiful.
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Thanks Julie
there is more that can be done once the template guides are mastered
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I would like to send congratulations to Reible for his effort in explaining how to obtain the off-set when using the guides. He has certainly attracted a great deal of interest. If I were to do the same I could only do it in metric as it is over 35 years since we made the change over, here in Australia , though I fully understand the imperial set up as I was brought up using it I find it easier to use the metric measurement.

I have been using template guides for years in fact I consider them to be the most important accessory we received with the router at the time of purchase.

We have to find a more accurate method of producing the elliptical shaped template and I suppose this is what puts many router users 'off' when it comes to template making.

Here is a simple solution to the problem.
Visit your local craft store and select an elliptical cut-out shape near to the dimensiond you require and use that as your pattern to produce a smaller shape with the aid of a template guide and straight cutter. If the original pattern is too large use the new template to rout another and so and so on till you get near to what tou are looking for.

Not so simple method [i][u]
Rout an elliptical shape with an 'Elliptical cutting Jig' Bought or simply make your own. One of the problems you will find is that you will only be able to produce a shape that will be greater than you require. Ok then simply produce one smaller using the method above. That is what I have been doing for years.

Once we have mastered the preparation of the template we are then able to produce Elliptical Trinket Boxes as shown in enclosed pic 180mm x 100mm x 35mm approx

Sorry I Will have to produce a new posting to submit photograph
Thanks Tom,

If someone is interested in the table I produced in metric sizes give me the bit sizes and template guide sizes and I will make one.

For those of you new to metric conversion just remember 1" = 25.4mm. Tom's box (and may I add it looks great, tell us about the finish) is just over 7" x almost 4" x 1 3/8" For those going the other way the daffy duck hole is (3" x 5") is about 75mm x 125mm (all dim. rounded)

I personal have found a lot of circles, ovals, and curved shapes are in your house ready to be traced. That oval tin of candy, the cup, tin can (take off the lid and squish and it's an oval). They also make templates of a lot of shapes so check the catalogs. Combine things to make odd shapes, make drawings free hand be creative.

Done feel creative to day? Then go to:
www.google.com
select image, turn on safe search, type in oval. That should keep you busy for a while.

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From Ed "For those of you new to metric conversion just remember 1" = 25.4mm. Tom's box (and may I add it looks great, tell us about the finish) is just over 7" x almost 4" x 1 3/8" For those going the other way the daffy duck hole is (3" x 5") is about 75mm x 125mm (all dim. rounded"

The box was cut from MDF and was simple painted. I have also produced them in solid timber. Just to get others thinking how it was done I will say that the only tool I used was the router.
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