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Old 07-11-2006, 11:44 PM   #11
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I know this is a old post but this tip may help someone that wants to make wheels and use the plugs from the hole saw.

At one time I made many,many toys and they all took wheels.
The high price of wheels got to me and I had many plugs on hand so I took a Irwin drill and cut off the end (norm.sq.ends for a brace and bit drill) so it would fit in the drill press.

Then I took it to the grinder and a rat tail file, did a bit of rework on the cutter so it would cut out wheels with a center hub....the main part of the drill works great to make the hub. see snapshots below.

This tools works great, it will make wheels from 1 1/2" to 3" and I had one bigger but I can find that one right now but I did show a snapshot of the blades you can get to make them....(from Ace Hardware/Home Depot)

Note **** you will need to grind off the screw thread on the main head that's to say grind it to a point, this will let you control the cutter.

You will also need to make a quick jig to hold the plugs (hole saw) do one side and then flip it over and do the backside of the plug/wheel.
Note***the plugs make great dual wheels for the rear of a truck toy.
do one side of the plug and then flip it over and do the other side and then take it to the band saw and put in a v-slot to make it look like two wheels.
make a jig to hold in place in the band saw,two sq. blocks with a 1/4" dowel to hold the wheel in place,a wheel Sandwich jig.

For the advance wood toy maker ▼
If you want to put the look of tire on the wheels use the tool below,I used a old one I had around and it works great for this job.
Stick the wheel in a drill with a 1/4" bolt and hold it to the knurling tool.

knurling tool below
http://www.grizzly.com/products/h2984
http://www.grizzly.com/products/h7570
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IRWIN Lockhead bit from: ▼

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=13872

http://www.hectorshardware.biz/shop/...03&sku=323004&

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p304960...ver?sourceid=3

http://www.petesdepot.com/323004.html
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Hope this helps someone

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Old 08-16-2006, 06:46 PM   #12
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I just got this idea in an email weekly tip from somewhere- Put a carriage bolt through the middle and lock it down with a nut. Chuck up the bolt in your drill press and use it as a lathe- take some sandpaper and round off the edges. It was a tip for making your own shop knobs but I think it will work for this as well.
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:42 PM   #13
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Some very good suggestions from previous posters. I make toys every year for inner city kids for Xmas & of course wheels,wheels, & more wheels of all sizes. My split fence forms the Vee necessary when rounding the wheels over on the router table. One of the things that I do is wear latex gloves to improve my grip on small parts. To sand the wheels & to clean off the odd burn mark I made a 1/4" arbor for the drill press from a bolt with the head cut off & with double nuts/washers attach the wheel. Spun in the drill press sandpaper cleans them up nicely & in the case of truck wheels allows you to cut in tread lines. For larger wheels than 2" I use the Precision Circle Jig (available from LV & originally designed to cut speaker holes using a router). I also use this jig when the toy uses off center axle holes because the jig pivot hole is only 1/8th inch instead of a 1/4" made by the hole saw making it easier to plug the hole for redrilling for off set axles.

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Just some snapshots to show what this bit will do.

The wheels are 2 3/8" O.D. and a 1/4" I.D. but you can make any size with one cutter.
I have made wheels up to 3 1/8" O.D. with this type of drill.
Just a note***I made the two wheels in less than 3 mins.for both wheels as you can see this is a quick and a safe way to make them.


Hope this helps someone that wants to make toy wheels


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The posts on wheels is very interesting..in fact, fantastic.
But, just in case you get tired of making wheels as I did, here's a place that you can get all sorts and sizes of wheels and many other things at what I think is a very reasonable price.
It is called Bearwoods Supply Co.
Corneallis Nova Scotia Canada, B0S 1H0
Phone 902-638-8637
They have a website which has their catalogue on it and you can order from there.
WWW.bearwood.com
I make tiny toy cars and send them to Zambia for the refugee children.
Keep up the good work.
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Thanks Maurice for the tip and link

Here's just one more link(see below), I have got wheels from them in pass.
They also stock the hard to find sizes,,,,plus the hard to find Truck Wheels,,,,but it's fun to make wheels sometimes and to find new ways to make them..
I did at one time make them on the lathe but it took to much time, now if I had a auto lathe that would be nice.

http://www.woodwrks.com/wood-craft-p...-Toy-Parts.htm


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I use my split fence to form the Vee for rounding over wheels cut with a hole saw or alternatively cut with a router jig that was originally developed for cutting speaker holes. Notice the furred end grain in the 7th photo of Rick & Mark's pic. Also when working at such close quarters I wear dental latex gloves to improve my grip on such a small part.
I made a drill press mandrel from a bolt with the head cut off & mount the wheel between two nuts/washers on the threaded end. This setup using sandpaper cleans away the end grain furring & the odd bit burn that will occur from time to time. It also allows me to cut in tread lines for wheels mounted on vehicles.

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