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Old 02-09-2011, 09:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello nice people in routerland!
I apologize in advance... This is a re-post.
I'm looking for a solution to a problem I'm having with a Ryobi 161 or 163 router.
I'll bet it's an older model 'cause it doesn't look quite like the photo on Ryobi's website.
Anyway, this is one with a twist bezel to adjust the height. It's stuck. Badly.
It's always been a pain... I took it apart once to try to solve the problem to no avail. Today, however, it's so stuck I can't do a thing to make it budge. I usually have to put the motor end into the vise, and use a strap. [broke the damn strap wrench I bought for the purpose.] This time, in desperation, I clamped the base and tried to turn it... that's a bad idea. Managed to re-align the aligning pin, but the bezel still won't budge. Any help?
Or is this machine destined for "repurposing"?

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Old 02-09-2011, 06:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello nice people in routerland!
I apologize in advance... This is a re-post.
I'm looking for a solution to a problem I'm having with a Ryobi 161 or 163 router.
I'll bet it's an older model 'cause it doesn't look quite like the photo on Ryobi's website.
Anyway, this is one with a twist bezel to adjust the height. It's stuck. Badly.
It's always been a pain... I took it apart once to try to solve the problem to no avail. Today, however, it's so stuck I can't do a thing to make it budge. I usually have to put the motor end into the vise, and use a strap. [broke the damn strap wrench I bought for the purpose.] This time, in desperation, I clamped the base and tried to turn it... that's a bad idea. Managed to re-align the aligning pin, but the bezel still won't budge. Any help?
Or is this machine destined for "repurposing"?
Hi Jason - Sorry to hear about the problem. Looking at the parts explode for the 161, my guess is the motor body is crudded up on the threads that mate with the ring. Only suggestion I can think of is to try to soften the stuff up. Probably gonna be mostly sawdust in there. Maybe a good wetting down with a penetrating fluid such as PB blaster and letting it soak in may loosen it. Spray it good two or three times letting it set 4-6 hours between soakings and try it after 24 hours or so. My other suggestion would be to take it into a shop but for what Ryobi's sell for that may not make economic sense.
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Good advice. I paid $45 for it used in good (looking) condition. Another won't break me, but I'm not used to being unable to fix things.
It's got some oil on it now...
When I opened it up last time there was no crud, and being the cheapo router in my shop it gets almost no use. I'm sure gunk ain't the problem. Seems that many others have had this issue but I can't find anyone with a solution.
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Good advice. I paid $45 for it used in good (looking) condition. Another won't break me, but I'm not used to being unable to fix things.
It's got some oil on it now...
When I opened it up last time there was no crud, and being the cheapo router in my shop it gets almost no use. I'm sure gunk ain't the problem. Seems that many others have had this issue but I can't find anyone with a solution.
I've got an old Craftsman I inherited that has a similar depth adjustment. Cleaning waxing, invoking curses, sacrificing chickens (just kiddding there) didn't seem to help. I finally just got a dovetail bit in it and adjusted for half blind joints in half inch stock and leave it alone.
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More good advice...
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I got a Ryobi router for a small table I have not used yet. Hope I don`t have this problem but if I do I too will set it up permently as a dovetail cutter or bite the bullet and get rid of it.
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Hello nice people in routerland!
I apologize in advance... This is a re-post.
I'm looking for a solution to a problem I'm having with a Ryobi 161 or 163 router.
I'll bet it's an older model 'cause it doesn't look quite like the photo on Ryobi's website.
Anyway, this is one with a twist bezel to adjust the height. It's stuck. Badly.
It's always been a pain... I took it apart once to try to solve the problem to no avail. Today, however, it's so stuck I can't do a thing to make it budge. I usually have to put the motor end into the vise, and use a strap. [broke the damn strap wrench I bought for the purpose.] This time, in desperation, I clamped the base and tried to turn it... that's a bad idea. Managed to re-align the aligning pin, but the bezel still won't budge. Any help?
Or is this machine destined for "repurposing"?
I have a 160 and I'm guessing you have a similar problem. I put some wd40 overnight then I used a vise grip type of oil filter wrench. Mine is wide enough, is a perfect grip and with enough handle power to get mine loose. When you brake it loose, do left and right turns to loosen anything that may be in the way until rotation is smooth
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Before giving up on what was a useful entry-level router, I would really like to solve this puzzle.

The exploded parts diagram shows #46 as a steel "needle roller." I removed the clamping lever and found that this needle is completely immovable. If is is a part that can be ordered, shouldn't it be removable?

I have taken off every part I can see, including set screw #35. What is holding the aluminum base and the metal and plastic motor housing together at this point? Is it the "needle roller?"

I think the problem is sawdust, old grease, etc in the spiral plastic housing. I used some penetrating oil with no luck.

This tool is not sturdy, and I'm sure if I use brute force, I will break it for good.

The construction seems so simple. I'll greatly appreciate anyone who can explain how the needle should work and how to get the router apart to clean it!

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I think the problem is sawdust, old grease, etc in the spiral plastic housing. I used some penetrating oil with no luck.
I think you are right and it does seem that the "needle roller" should be free. Likely a matter of more penetrating oil and patience. I'd soak the thing with WD-40 or, even better, PB Blaster and let it set overnite. Maybe a little heat would help also, heat gun, not a torch.
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Many thanks for the quick response, John. You rock!

Still no luck with penetrating oil and heat. The needle and ring are immovable in any direction, even when gently encouraged with tools.

Reference the attached diagram, could you tell me about separating the motor housing, the ring and the base? What fasteners are holding the whole stack together? Does the motor cap have to come off?

I see that later Ryobis do not this type of depth adjustment. No surprise there!

Greatly appreciating your help with this interesting puzzle.

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