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Hi,
Having a problem finding a Bosch centering cone (ra1151).
They seem to be on back order till June or so. Actually did find one, but shipping was very high. Wondering if the Porter-Cable 45005 Centering Cone for Compact Router may work for my Bosch 1617 evspk. This centering cone can be seen on Amazon .com Amazon.com: Porter-Cable 45005 Centering Cone for Compact Router: Home Improvement

It is also available with free 2 day shipping, because I joined the amazon prime deal.

Thanks for any advice.

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Hi Mike

Google has a great tool, it will do the digging for you.
But NOTE National Back Order June 2012 so to say it may be a long shot to find one in stock, but I will say the PC one should work just fine,just backwards from the Bosch,looks like they are one in the same cone wise (1/4" and 1/2" thing ).the Bosch one is about 8.oo shipping charge.

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Hi,
Having a problem finding a Bosch centering cone (ra1151).
They seem to be on back order till June or so. Actually did find one, but shipping was very high. Wondering if the Porter-Cable 45005 Centering Cone for Compact Router may work for my Bosch 1617 evspk. This centering cone can be seen on Amazon .com Amazon.com: Porter-Cable 45005 Centering Cone for Compact Router: Home Improvement

It is also available with free 2 day shipping, because I joined the amazon prime deal.

Thanks for any advice.

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I have a centering cone that came with a DeWalt 616 and have used it with most all of my routers when the need arises.

The cone itself slips off of the shaft (with some careful effort) and can be reversed/adjusted for different setups.

PS. I've used it on my 1617 and the PC one appears to be similar to the Dewalt version.

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Hi,
Having a problem finding a Bosch centering cone (ra1151).
They seem to be on back order till June or so. Actually did find one, but shipping was very high. Wondering if the Porter-Cable 45005 Centering Cone for Compact Router may work for my Bosch 1617 evspk. This centering cone can be seen on Amazon .com Amazon.com: Porter-Cable 45005 Centering Cone for Compact Router: Home Improvement

It is also available with free 2 day shipping, because I joined the amazon prime deal.

Thanks for any advice.

Mike
Hi Mike, IMHO a centering cone is a centering cone. My Hitachi came with a centering disc, I've got a couple of Milescraft centering cones as well as a couple of centering pins from some inlay kits as well as a cone from Peachtree in case I can't find any of the others. They all work equally well. The only thing about the Porter Cable cone you linked to is it needs to be used with a 1/4" shank unless the cone part is reversable. Not a big issue as the centering shouldn't change by switching collets. If it does, I submit there would be larger issues at hand.
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Tom, John & Bob,

Appreciate your advice and comments. Thanks...

I have ordered the Porter-Cable 45005 Centering Cone.

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I have a PC 690LRVS that I want to use in my router table, and I want to be able to accurately center it there. I can't figure out what/which centering cone (or another centering device) would work with it. The PC cone seems to be only for small PC routers -- is this correct? -- and I can't find a similar cone that PC makes for my size router, which would seem to make sense for them to do. I ordered a Rousseau centering device and think I can use it but the disk that goes on the pin is smaller than the hole in the nearest size insert in the base of my Rockler router table with Rockler base. Two questions: what will work for me? and Why aren't there obviously-matched cones or other products for EVERY combination of router and baseplate/insert since so many of us need to center the router in the baseplate of the table?
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Hi Terry

I'm not a big fan of the cone type it's a one time tool the norm but you can get a inlay kit and just snap it in place in one of the rings you got with the Rousseau plate and many others of that type are setup the same way..
Then your router will be setup on dead center..no guess work needed.

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I have a PC 690LRVS that I want to use in my router table, and I want to be able to accurately center it there. I can't figure out what/which centering cone (or another centering device) would work with it. The PC cone seems to be only for small PC routers -- is this correct? -- and I can't find a similar cone that PC makes for my size router, which would seem to make sense for them to do. I ordered a Rousseau centering device and think I can use it but the disk that goes on the pin is smaller than the hole in the nearest size insert in the base of my Rockler router table with Rockler base. Two questions: what will work for me? and Why aren't there obviously-matched cones or other products for EVERY combination of router and baseplate/insert since so many of us need to center the router in the baseplate of the table?
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I have a PC 690LRVS that I want to use in my router table, and I want to be able to accurately center it there. I can't figure out what/which centering cone (or another centering device) would work with it. The PC cone seems to be only for small PC routers -- is this correct? -- and I can't find a similar cone that PC makes for my size router, which would seem to make sense for them to do. I ordered a Rousseau centering device and think I can use it but the disk that goes on the pin is smaller than the hole in the nearest size insert in the base of my Rockler router table with Rockler base. Two questions: what will work for me? and Why aren't there obviously-matched cones or other products for EVERY combination of router and baseplate/insert since so many of us need to center the router in the baseplate of the table?
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Whoa - slow up a bit Terry... The router wants to be centered as close as possible in the base plate but absolute centering is really only necessary if you are planning on using guide bushings in conjunction with the table. Does your table have an insert that will accept guide bushings?? If so, install a bushing and use a centering cone to center the router on the plate. If not, get it as close as possible and call it a day. Guide bushings do the same thing as a bearing or a fence, they control the relationship between the workpiece and the bit. Any one of the 3 does the same job. The difference is with a fence, you set the relationship of the workpiece to the cutter directly. With a bearing, that relationship is set for you by the OD of the bearing and cutting diameter of the bit. The bushing depends on the bit being exactly centered within it's diameter, if not centered, the relationship between the workpiece and the bit varies around the circumference of the bushing.
Hmm, may have confused myself with that one... anyway, hope it helped
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Thanks, John, I think I'm gradually understanding what's needed and what's useful in centering. This stuff has alot of details to try to digest!
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