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Old 01-16-2007, 07:24 AM   #11
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Daniel R san

Your base is Flat ? It is good for you. So... you have not need to spend waste-time, have you.
The only answer from PC is "contact Black Decker". So I think PC avoids their duty. At that time, I should decide that I should understand that that correspondence is a some way of taking duty.
The beat way of solve is smile and 44-Magnum. (Sorry, Bj san. It is just a bad joke of mine)
And also, as you said, it is impossible for me to get "the right contact person".

Now evrytime I use PC router, I usually feel "why I must use a defective ?".
So I want to release myself from that kind of feeling when I use router.
Then I made up my mind to replace sub-base.

I think it is the best way to replace a sub-base to high quality one.
So as my first write, I ask you all to recommend me a good sub-base.

I thank you for your advices.
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Old 01-16-2007, 07:24 AM   #12
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to all members,

I need time to write something in English. So reply is like a snail.
And I usually make mistakes in words and grammer.
As a consequence of my poor ability of language, I may mislead you often.

So I ask you all members to poin out my mistakes to me.
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:42 AM   #13
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Your english in the posts is excellent.
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:22 PM   #14
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Benny,

Doug has the best solution, use a piece of acrylic. If you are still having problems contacting B&D or PC. Get yourself a piece of acrylic and try a machine shop. They should be able to copy the original to the acrylic and it should be flat.
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:25 PM   #15
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to all members,

I thank you for your kindly assistances.
Those make Black&Decker change its mind.
BD says "we ship them without your payment.".
I may be able to been released from bad impression of them.
I thank all members again.

But I use sub-base which is made by acrylic shop near my house.
It is high price a little bit, but it is bot bad.




Unnecessary additon as a English study.

What is the meaning of "will attempt to ship" ?
As far as I know, it means just possibility in future. It is not decided to ship.
So I mailed " After decision, mail me again".
Aa a reply, "are going to attempt to ship".

So I want to know.
1) What is a differemce (are differences) between "will" and "be going to" ?
2) Which has more strong mind(will) for(to or another) shipping ?

I am glad if you could teach me.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:15 PM   #16
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Benny, english is a very specific language. Part of the problem you are having is what we call "mannorism's". The person who told you they "will attempt to ship" meant they would ship as long as the part was in stock. Chances are he did not look on the shelf to be sure the part was there, it might be in a different department or even building. He might not have access to inventory numbers. He was trying to ship you the part and it depended on somebody else to do this.

1) What is the difference between "will" and "are going to"?
We will do this. A positive decision has been made.
We are going to do this. The action is planned.
Both mean yes, described in different ways.

2) Which shows more intention or commitment?
In this case they both mean the same.

It is sad but many in this country are poor students of our own language.

I finally got into the B&D/DeWalt/PC service center today and had them hopping about trying to find a base plate to check for square. They did not have even one in stock. I am glad they are replacing your plate, as they should. I will mention this to PC so they are aware their service department is not taking good care of customers.
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Old 01-19-2007, 06:42 AM   #17
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Hi: At one time I needed a clear see through base for my router, which was a PC 693.
I bought a piece of 1/4" Lucite, and used the PC sub base as a guide. I used another router and a trim bit with a bearing, and routed the Lucite both outside, and the center hole. Then I drilled it out for the mounting screws, and it worked perfectly.
Good luck with it. Woodnut65
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Ken san

Thank you for an advice.

I posted that I asked shop tp make order-made sub-base. The inside story is maybe like ... a shop asks another shop in big town to make it. It is also impossoble for a shop at small town.

That is right. I should thank Doug san. He gave me an inspire about non-factory sub bases.
At that time, an idea comming to me is only router compass.


Can I laugh your image ?
I wonder which derection he or she or it wants to go ...
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I thank you very much for your kindness. And I am very sorry for the much trouble of you.

For the future, if PC will take care of evry customers, it is good for customers.
"Contact BD" is really an avoiding their duty, I think.

Anyway, I thank you for all members for big help.


About language
Please let me be going to post it to Lobby or someplace.
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Benny,
You are correct that companies should take care of their customers. If there is a problem, they should fix it at their cost, not yours. Please keep us posted on how this all turns out.

Mike couldn't have said this better... "It is sad but many in this country are poor students of our own language."
While those that are learning the english langauge seem to understand it better than we do. Your english is just fine.

"Can I laugh your image ?
I wonder which derection he or she or it wants to go ..."
Yes, you may. It was meant to make others laugh or give them a smile.
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