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**BobandRick** · 11-25-2004, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by template tom

What about a simple picture frame from solid timber for a start as this will involve a number of pocesses to complete the project?

or maybe someone has an alternative project we can start from.

Let's say the frame is to take a 7" x 5" photograph 180mm x 130mm (approx) I prefer working in metric since our conversion here in Australia in 1968.

1. What cutters will be required?
2. How is the material to be held?
3. How will the cutters be controlled?
4. What other tools will be required?
5. What are the stages of producing the frame?
6. I think this should have been the first considerationCan it be done with Safety ?
7. Will it involve purchasing new Cutters?

One of the problems will be how much can I post at one time as I will require some space. The answer might be sending those who are interested an email with all the details.
Let me know your thoughts then I can get started. It is also of great help to me if there is some feed back on the method. You can be upfront and tell me it is a waste of time or the information was useful.
I'll await your posts
Tom

You want me to be upfront and honest... this the exact reason I decided to set up routerforums.com. Let us all follow your lead, thanks for the interest Tom.

template tom · 11-26-2004, 05:30 AM

Hi all

They say a pic is worth a thousand words. I have included a number of drawing to get things started.
14.s Cutter This is the cutter to insert the internal face moulding of the frame. The template guide is 40mm. (Sorry for the metric but I only work with metric dimensions) This combination will determine the size of the cut-out in the template 15. s

10 s Jig to hold the material secure 400 x 300 x 12mm. material held with the aid of 'Shelf Supports' Jig is held in Jig Holder 400 x 300 x 40mm internal dimensions.

12 s Once the material is secure in the Jig Holder the template is added.

16 s and 17 s are the additional tools required 30mm Guide and 10mm straight cutter and 16mm guide and 10mm cutter.

Stages of procedure
5.s rout internal moulding
4.s Set up showing direction of cut
8a s Routing rebate for pic and glass
9s rebate for backing material (if required)

18s Edge treatment this of course will require a rouding over cutter wiyh bearing.

All the processes are carried out 100% in the plunge mode.
Post you comments and let me know what you think of the technique.

**Mike** · 11-26-2004, 08:51 AM

Thanks for the design Tom. One question; everything I have seen has taught me that external cuts are made clockwise, internal cuts are to be made counter clockwise. You show making the internal cut clockwise. Is there a special reason for this?

reible · 11-26-2004, 09:06 AM

The feed direction looks correct to me. With the router above the work the inside cut would be clockwise, if the router were below (ie table mounted) then the cut would be cc.

Ed

**BobandRick** · 11-26-2004, 11:50 AM

This looks great Tom.

Can you explain what determines the guide sizes to be used?

template tom · 11-26-2004, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniceone2hold

Thanks for the design Tom. One question; everything I have seen has taught me that external cuts are made clockwise, internal cuts are to be made counter clockwise. You show making the internal cut clockwise. Is there a special reason for this?

External cuts are made anti-clockwise with such cutters with bearings or using the side fence attachment and internal cuts are clockwise when using template guides

**Mike** · 11-27-2004, 06:14 PM

Ok, Now that I am thinking "Above the table" its clear. Almost everything I have done is table mounted.

template tom · 11-27-2004, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobandRick

This looks great Tom.

Can you explain what determines the guide sizes to be used?

I will set to and produce a sketch easier than a wordy explaination.
Tom

template tom · 11-27-2004, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniceone2hold

Ok, Now that I am thinking "Above the table" its clear. Almost everything I have done is table mounted.

I would be interested in your reply if you should GIVE IT A TRY
Tom

template tom · 12-20-2004, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by template tom

I would be interested in your reply if you should GIVE IT A TRY
Tom

Did anyone try the method and make the simple box to hold the material and the jig with the template also inserted. I would be interested if there was
Tom

11-26-2004, 05:30 AM	#12
template tom Registered User Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 536 View template tom's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi all They say a pic is worth a thousand words. I have included a number of drawing to get things started. 14.s Cutter This is the cutter to insert the internal face moulding of the frame. The template guide is 40mm. (Sorry for the metric but I only work with metric dimensions) This combination will determine the size of the cut-out in the template 15. s 10 s Jig to hold the material secure 400 x 300 x 12mm. material held with the aid of 'Shelf Supports' Jig is held in Jig Holder 400 x 300 x 40mm internal dimensions. 12 s Once the material is secure in the Jig Holder the template is added. 16 s and 17 s are the additional tools required 30mm Guide and 10mm straight cutter and 16mm guide and 10mm cutter. Stages of procedure 5.s rout internal moulding 4.s Set up showing direction of cut 8a s Routing rebate for pic and glass 9s rebate for backing material (if required) 18s Edge treatment this of course will require a rouding over cutter wiyh bearing. All the processes are carried out 100% in the plunge mode. Post you comments and let me know what you think of the technique. Attached Thumbnails
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Mike Senior Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, Michigan USA Posts: 3,372 View Mike's Gallery	Report This Post! Thanks for the design Tom. One question; everything I have seen has taught me that external cuts are made clockwise, internal cuts are to be made counter clockwise. You show making the internal cut clockwise. Is there a special reason for this?
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reible Registered User Supreme Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,703 View reible's Gallery	Report This Post! The feed direction looks correct to me. With the router above the work the inside cut would be clockwise, if the router were below (ie table mounted) then the cut would be cc. Ed
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BobandRick The Router Guys Forum King Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 632 View BobandRick's Gallery	Report This Post! This looks great Tom. Can you explain what determines the guide sizes to be used? __________________ Rick and Bob The Router Guys Click here to send a greeting card to friend or relative.
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Mike Senior Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, Michigan USA Posts: 3,372 View Mike's Gallery	Report This Post! Ok, Now that I am thinking "Above the table" its clear. Almost everything I have done is table mounted.
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