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Old 12-26-2004, 05:26 PM   #21
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This looks great Tom.

Can you explain what determines the guide sizes to be used?
Routing out any shape and inserting an inlay (Square or rectangular shapes will require the corners to be chiselled square).

First calculate the size of the inlay

Prepare a 'female template' which will have to be larger that the cut-out of course. This size is determined by the template guide and cutter used.
With a 30mm guide and a 10mm cutter the cut-out will required to be 20mm greater all round this has an off-set of 10mm (Cutter to template guide)

To rout an insert to fit exactly into position (Circular or elliptical) use a 16mm template guide and a 4mm cutter as this will produce an off-set of 6mm plus the thickness of the cutter 6mm to produce 10mm required

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Old 01-07-2007, 06:14 PM   #22
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Did anyone try the method and make the simple box to hold the material and the jig with the template also inserted. I would be interested if there was
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Sorry to bring this up again
It is now over Two years since I made the post above. It seems there is no real interest in the use of the guides. I would be interested in your reasons why.
I do use the router table as not everything can be achieved in the plunge mode, but I see the router used in the table for certain items and I am convinced that it can be better achieved in the plunge Mode. Take the Heart Shaped trinket box that was published in an American woodworking Magazaine (Must try to find the publication again. I loaned my copy to a friend some time ago and it has not been returned) Maybe someone out there saw the article and may still have details of it.
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"I would be interested in your reasons why"

I use the guides in the router table all the time because the table can and will hold the router for me and keep it flat and give me more control of the cut.
I do use the plunge router from time to time but the table just works for me on most of the jobs I do, with the plunge router they are light duty jobs, like triming or putting on a edge or when I can't get in on the table then I almost always use a bit with a bearing on the bit.

I guess Bob and Rick have brain washed me because I see how they do most things quick and easy with the router table, I have used the plunge router to make the Oak-Park wheels,templates,patterns,inlays,many of the Oak-Park templates hearts ,etc. but it's hard to beat the router table and the way they (Bob and Rick) do it.

But this is just my 2 cents

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You may want to read below,they don't show the Heart Shaped trinket box but it maybe listed by some other name.

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Thanks Bob

I'll keep on hunting for it I was only interested in the method that was used as I changed the construction completely
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I would like to learn more about templates, how to make them and how to use them.
I saw your blog and was pretty impressed. That also might be the way to go just post a link to your blog from the forums.

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I would like to learn more about templates, how to make them and how to use them.
I saw your blog and was pretty impressed. That also might be the way to go just post a link to your blog from the forums.

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The most important guide to purchase is the 40mm Not the 16-18mm one supplied with the router. For a start you can use a greater variety of cutters that will fit through the 40mm guide therefore increasing the number of processes you are capable of doing.
I certainly have had a go at a number of blogs and you will find some of the projects listed there. SOME Projects in my opinion that can only be completed with the router in the plunge mode with the aid of template guides.
Here are a few blogs I have tried out since Rick and Bob introduced me to Blogging

http://www.woodshopphotos.com/main.p...542&g2_page=1&

http://tomodonnell.bigblog.com.au/

http://routermagic.blogspot.com/

http://templatetom.wordpress.com/200...-new-projects/

http://theonlineauthor.com/templatetom/

Have a look at some of the projects. The people you see in the photographs are from My class of 2005 at the Association for the Blind They were responsible for producing the various projects using the template guide method, Some were partially blind but a few were totally blind. Yes I did produse all the templates and jigs before they began to rout the various projects.
As I said To all "TRY THEM FOR YOURSELF"
The introduction to the guides has been posted on this forum for all to make a copy.
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Tom, at this time 40 MM guide bushings are still not available in North America. I have contacted several tool stores asking them to request it, and I have contacted Trend, N.A. about including it in their imports. Until we get enough members to request this bushing nobody will listen. In the meanwhile if you will send me the specs I will see about a low quantity production run.
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Tom, at this time 40 MM guide bushings are still not available in North America. I have contacted several tool stores asking them to request it, and I have contacted Trend, N.A. about including it in their imports. Until we get enough members to request this bushing nobody will listen. In the meanwhile if you will send me the specs I will see about a low quantity production run.
Thanks Mike
I have sent the details of the introduction to the use of template guides to Trend in the UK praising them for at least manufacturing a great variety of Metric and Imperial guides. As most router manufactures have their own guides you will require to purchase a new base. They will only fit onto their Uni Base they supply for most routers which is great.
I have asked them to use the information on the promotion of the guides if they wish to do so. I am awaitng feedback from them(Hopefully they will respond)

What else can we do other to find a manufacturer willing to produce them.
I perquaded Makita Australia to re- introduce the guide which for a while had been ommitted as an accessory for a number of years and I asked them to introduce the 40mm Guide Guess what they did and to this day I've heard nothing since (2Years ago).
I honestly think the best bet is Trend as they alredy produce the article anyway. If I can find a way of emailing them I will try to see what they can do. Trend are exporting to America??
Mike keep up the good work
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