Mike

I post asking members to list their state/provence and country in their profile. This is exactly the reason why... so we can get you to somebody in person to help.

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woodworksnmore

Actually I thought I had done that. Obviously I hadn't. Well I did it now. I would like to find someone around here that could help me out once in a while.

So, if there is someone out there close by, please speak up and make yourself heard.

Thanks
Jay

Hamlin

Hi Jay,

I only mentioned this due to the fact that, many people will sharpen their bits. Thus making them smaller than their what they're supposed to be. You didn't mention rather that bit was well used or new. As for the guides, again, these can be "jossled" around and knocked out of round sorta say. So, again, I mentioned this as a possibility of the cause to your problem. I don't have the spiralcrafter so I can't really give an answer. But, inlay is still inlay work. I will retract my suggestion if need be.

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woodworksnmore

No need to retract, but since we're on the subject, here is what I don't understand...

I understand all about your theory of sharping and so on, but even if that were the case, you have to remember that it's the guides that do the guiding, not the bit. The bit only cuts where the guide lets it go. My problem is with the guides. They all are new. The reason I say that is even though I've had them for awhile, I keep them in their cases and they have not been used more then maybe a half dozen times, if that (in fact, they haven't even been used that many times). No matter what size bit, or if it's out of round, or what, the guides are not letting it come out the way it's supposed to. For some reason the inlay is smaller then the cutout. That is what I don't understand. Even if the bit weren't centered, it should still come out the same size, it just wouldn't fit. Correct??? Or not??? Understand what I'm saying? I'm baffled myself.

Hamlin

Hi Jay,

Your assumption of what the guides are supposed to do, is correct.
Could the workpiece be loose in the spiralcrafter? If it has some slight movement, this would cause the problem. You might try giving Bobj a pm, I believe he has a spiralcrafter.

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Mike

It looks like the closest help is in Pittsburgh at a Woodcraft store. Rockler also has a store in the city but on the northern side. Either of these stores can help you with hands on using your router and jig. Take all the bushings and bits you use with the jig and they will get you going for sure. Sometimes it is easier seeing it in person. Good luck and let us know how it works out.

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woodworksnmore

It's been many years since I have been to the Woodcraft store. I don't even remember how to get there. I know the Rockler store quite well. I have done business with them for a few years now. I'm not really impressed with them.
But you may be right, this just may be the way to go. Thank you for that suggestion, I will look into it if I keep having problems with this thing.

I was going over the links you gave. I didn't see anything to help me, but I do have a question for you. I copied and pasted the following sentence from the first link:
2) the wall thickness of the inlay bushing must be the same as the diameter of the bit;
If you go back and read the post left by fourleftpaws, you will see this statement can't be true. If he is using a 1/4" bit, I'm sure the wall thickness of the inlay guide is not 1/4" thick. As far as the brass ones I have, it won't take a 1/4" bit, it will only take a 1/8" bit. Do they make them in brass that will take a 1/4" bit?
Or, am I reading it wrong or mis-understanding? I have the plastic ones he is talking about and they will take a 1/4" bit. But I don't see how the bit size would make a difference in the outcome, as long as the same bit is used throughout the entire operation. Am I wrong?

Somewhere, somehow, I'm just not understanding something. I don't understand how I could use this thing just a few weeks ago and it worked, but now I can't get it to do the same thing again.

Well I'm off to the basement where the shop is. I'm going to get back to work and see if I can get something figured out. Guys, thank you all for the help, suggestions, and so on. I'll let you know if I had any success.
Will talk with you good folks later.

Jay

jjciesla

Woodworksnmore,
IMO there are two possible reasons for your dilemma. First: Using the 11 and 17mm bushings and a 1/8” bit. If you swap the bushings for the pocket & inlay your parts will be ¼” off. Second: Using the 11 and 17mm bushings and a 1/4” bit and using the bushings in the correct sequence, your parts will ALWAYS be ¼” off. The 11 and 17mm bushings are not compatible with the ¼” bit. See the picture. I think (hope) it’s self explanatory. Should anyone see an error in my analysis please let me know. Then I’ll go back to the drawing boards.
Cheers,

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curiousgeorge

I believe Jim's assesment is correct and a nice drawing.
Jay, maybe this one will help you understand the relationship between the bit and bushing.

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bobj3

Hi Guys

I think the MilesCraft manual calls for a 1/8" bit, a 11.11 mm guide and a 17mm guide,see page 5 & 6 in the manual...

You can hog out the pocket with a bigger bit ( 1/2" to 3/4", bottom cutting bit ) with care but without the guide in place, but ONLY after you use the 1/8" bit....

Bottom Cleaning Router Bits
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../bt_bottm.html

Plunge Cutting Straight Router Bits
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../bt_plung.html

Dado Clean Out Router Bits, that can be used with a template so you don't nail the edges of the pocket hole..
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...s/bt_dado.html
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