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Old 08-07-2008, 08:08 AM   #1
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I bought the signcrafter on Amazon, opened the box yesterday, a couple pieces missing, but not too bad. FINALLY got the thing put together, but for the life of me can not figure out how to attach it to the board. I understand the clamps, etc, BUT when assembled the jig is about 40" long, (2 18" rails plus the ends) EXTREMELY frustrated right now, Going to try to "Clamp" it to the board tonight using bar clamps, but I am not sure if it will get in the way of the router. Any suggestions would be GREATLY APPRECIATED. "the clamps on the end aren't that great anyway) UNLESS it is all on me, (read as Operator Error!)

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Old 08-07-2008, 08:34 AM   #2
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Hi Evll

I'm not to sure what the SignCrafter by Milestone looks like BUT
This is for the
Milescraft 1206 SignCrafter Signmaking template kit with TurnLock

It's not you it's the jig ,, It's a great jig BUT you will need to beef it up just a bit and do a bit of rework so you can use it...easy..

You will need to make some support blocks and some drop on blocks to keep the letters in place and drill some holes on the end parts...

I found out the best way is to use longer stock than you need for the sign then once you have the router job done cut off the waste.

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Hi Evil,
I use the same one, there should have been locking clamps with the kit ?. Do you want me to post a photo of it in position ?, the so called instructions are useless I had to start by trial and error first.
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I use the same one, there should have been locking clamps with the kit ?. Do you want me to post a photo of it in position ?, the so called instructions are useless I had to start by trial and error first.
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If you wouldn't mind posting pics that would be great. I believe what you are referring to is in the last pic above.? I do have them (I beleive) but unless the board is at least 40" - 42" long, I don't understand how they could connect, unless I drop it down to one (1) 18" rail. Again, it could be my misunderstanding, but I don't believe that is the case, at least this time! haha
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Hi Evll

I'm not to sure what the SignCrafter by Milestone looks like BUT
This is for the
Milescraft 1206 SignCrafter Signmaking template kit with TurnLock

It's not you it's the jig ,, It's a great jig BUT you will need to beef it up just a bit and do a bit of rework so you can use it...easy..

You will need to make some support blocks and some drop on blocks to keep the letters in place and drill some holes on the end parts...

I found out the best way is to use longer stock than you need for the sign then once you have the router job done cut off the waste.

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Bob that IS the exact setup that I bought. Just the wrong name, sorry. What is the thickness of the blocks and supports that you made. It looks as though YOU have this all figured out. I ended up playing with the router freehand last night, just because I got tired of staring at in the box untouched. I really would like to use this stencil, (my freehand sucks) if you wouldn't mind post or emailing me the sizes I would REALLY APPRECIATE IT! Are they made out of hardboard? Luan? The spacers are a BIG issue, I was missing the left spacer when I received the kit. What is the deal with two turnlocks, (not 100% sure of the sizes) one was 5/8 and I think the other was 7/16. But the bit (included) only fit the 5/8 turnlock, BUT the 5/8 turnlock DIDN'T fit the smaller letters? I don't get it?

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Hi Evil

" thickness of the blocks" are 1/4" thick MDF and the letter spacers are 1/8" thick MDF, I don't recommend hardboard because it's not a true size sometimes and it needs to be right on to fit inside the letter tracks.

The blocks are for support under the jig rails and over the top of the rails to keep the letters in place but stilll let you move them out easy to change them out...if the rails bend out of wack the letters will fall right and you will make some nice fire wood signs.

Just takes one small error to send it off to the fire place..

" turnlock " You should have got a new router base place with the kit and a line up tool, do put the plate on your router and then put the guide you want to use...the guides can be tricky to get in and out ,I made a small tool to do that and I will post a picture of that, it makes it eay to install them or take them out...

In the kit you should have got two or three router bits one that will fit the small 7/16" guide ( in small red boxes)
If I recall the bits are 1/4" cove.1/4" letter bit (sharp point bit) and a 3/8" cove bit also...to be used with the 5/8" guide.

If you didn't get all the bits you can use a standard 1/4" straight bits.

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Bob that IS the exact setup that I bought. Just the wrong name, sorry. What is the thickness of the blocks and supports that you made. It looks as though YOU have this all figured out. I ended up playing with the router freehand last night, just because I got tired of staring at in the box untouched. I really would like to use this stencil, (my freehand sucks) if you wouldn't mind post or emailing me the sizes I would REALLY APPRECIATE IT! Are they made out of hardboard? Luan? The spacers are a BIG issue, I was missing the left spacer when I received the kit. What is the deal with two turnlocks, (not 100% sure of the sizes) one was 5/8 and I think the other was 7/16. But the bit (included) only fit the 5/8 turnlock, BUT the 5/8 turnlock DIDN'T fit the smaller letters? I don't get it?

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Hi Evil

" thickness of the blocks" are 1/4" thick MDF and the letter spacers are 1/8" thick MDF, I don't recommend hardboard because it's not a true size sometimes and it needs to be right on to fit inside the letter tracks.

" turnlock " You should have got a new router base place with the kit and a line up tool, do put the plate on your router and then put the guide you want to use...the guides can be tricky to get in and out ,I made a small tool to do that and I will post a picture of that, it makes it eay to install them or take them out...

In the kit you should have got two or three router bits one that will fit the small 7/16" guide ( in small red boxes)
If I recall the bits are 1/4" cove.1/4" letter bit (sharp point bit) and a 3/8" cove bit also...to be used with the 5/8" guide.
If you didn't get all the bits you can use a standard 1/4" straight bits.

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Thanks Bob, just to recap the "spacers are 1/8 mdf, the support blocks are 1/4' with 1/8" on top? You also answered my turnlock question. I only received one (1) bit, I believe it is the 3/8" cove but NOT the other two. I purchased a starter bit set along with the router, but they are up the mountains, (my wife was HELPING clean up for a party last week and put them away for me) lol but I will be going up tonight. I will play with this over the weekend HOPEFULLY and left you know of my findings. THANK YOU VERY MUCH One and ALL
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There are 3 different sets of these sign making jigs on the market, all the same except for length. I bought the cheapest set: the Craftsman sign making kit. While difficult to set up you can make a sign with the kit. BJ's solution looks to be a great improvement. Nice job BJ!
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Hi Evil

You'er Welcome,,,the spacers are 1/8" MDF. the support block are 1/4" MDF and some have 1/2" blocks on the ends to lock the rails and a way to clamp the rails down without deforming the the rails with the clamps...

The 1/8" MDF is just for the insdie of the rails to keep the letters in place, that's one of the errors with the jig, the letters do like to drop out easy.

Just a note about the stock black hold down clamp that comes with the jig ,they sucks, just put it back in the box and use your own shop made one.
The error with them is you can't get them off or out of the way when you need to without taking the jig apart when you have a line of words or a long word that go pass the Alum. clamp in the center of the ralis...

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Thanks Bob, just to recap the "spacers are 1/8 mdf, the support blocks are 1/4' with 1/8" on top? You also answered my turnlock question. I only received one (1) bit, I believe it is the 3/8" cove but NOT the other two. I purchased a starter bit set along with the router, but they are up the mountains, (my wife was HELPING clean up for a party last week and put them away for me) lol but I will be going up tonight. I will play with this over the weekend HOPEFULLY and left you know of my findings. THANK YOU VERY MUCH One and ALL
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