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Old 11-24-2008, 09:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fellow members have always led me to believe that 40mm template guides were not available in the USA, the Makita 3612C in particular. I, like most people only tend to read instruction books when things get desperate! I was just reading the booklet that came with my 3612C several years ago and see that a 40mm guide part number 164472-4 is an accessory. I then entered that number into a Google search and was surprised at what came up, including this US site.

http://www.homelumbercom.com/prodspe...&value=1644724

Give it a try, for other brands too.
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The site does not list sizes for any of the guide bushings. Bosch, DeWalt, Porter Cable, Milwaukee and Hitachi do not make the 40 mm or other metric guides.(per their web sites) I am going to check a local tool shop with the part number you listed to see if they have it available.
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Old 11-25-2008, 11:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Harry,

Thanks, for the price listed, I didn't pass it up. Will let ya know when I receive it.

Mike, I agree the size isn't listed nor posted on the web site. I think, (don't quote me), if you know the part #, ie., should be listed in the manual. You shouldn't have a problem finding said piece. Btw, the 40mm guide isn't listed on Makita's USA site either.


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Fellow members have always led me to believe that 40mm template guides were not available in the USA, the Makita 3612C in particular. I, like most people only tend to read instruction books when things get desperate! I was just reading the booklet that came with my 3612C several years ago and see that a 40mm guide part number 164472-4 is an accessory. I then entered that number into a Google search and was surprised at what came up, including this US site.

http://www.homelumbercom.com/prodspe...&value=1644724

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O Great Harry

Now I need to buy a Makita router just to use a 40mm mickey mouse guide NOT

But I'm sure the members that have a Makita router will buy one.. great find you old fart , you may want to edit the picture to show the size. ID,OD,and the height...

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Fellow members have always led me to believe that 40mm template guides were not available in the USA, the Makita 3612C in particular. I, like most people only tend to read instruction books when things get desperate! I was just reading the booklet that came with my 3612C several years ago and see that a 40mm guide part number 164472-4 is an accessory. I then entered that number into a Google search and was surprised at what came up, including this US site.

http://www.homelumbercom.com/prodspe...&value=1644724

Give it a try, for other brands too.
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Makita's web site list 164472-4 as a 1 37/64" guide.

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Hi Bj,

In defense to Harry, the pic posted is directly from the site. As Mike pointed out, there's no listing of actual size.

Harry did make me dig out my manuals, thankfully I kept both. The info, listed is NOT in the newer manuals. It only states to contact your local Makita service center. Also, in the older manuals, it lists the guide sizes in metric first then in inch size.

If you'd like I can try to scan the page(s) from my manual & try to post them.
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HI Ken

No big deal,, I was just poking Metric Harry just a little bit, he is stuck in the metric world and would like the rest of the world to switch over to it and drive on the wrong side of the road.. LOL


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Hi Bj,

In defense to Harry, the pic posted is directly from the site. As Mike pointed out, there's no listing of actual size.

Harry did make me dig out my manuals, thankfully I kept both. The info, listed is NOT in the newer manuals. It only states to contact your local Makita service center. Also, in the older manuals, it lists the guide sizes in metric first then in inch size.

If you'd like I can try to scan the page(s) from my manual & try to post them.
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Hi Bj,

LOL, I know, you and Harry like to play "ping pong" with each other here on the forums. ( I just sit on the sidelines watchin, I think ya both are tied ) I was only trying to clear the info for others who don't know.

For others who do have the 3612C. I did do some searching thru the USA Makita site. The web site Harry listed IS upon their listings.
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The manual that came with my Hitachi M12V2 lists part numbers for imperial and metric guides. Up to and including 40mm. But when I contacted Hitachi they said, not available in the US. Does'nt really matter much though since I have no metric bits. I think that would be harder to figure out the offsets. The larger guides from Oak Park or LeeValley get you pretty close to 40mm. And give the same benefits as far as chip(swarf) removal,and collett clearance.
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The manual that came with my Hitachi M12V2 lists part numbers for imperial and metric guides. Up to and including 40mm. But when I contacted Hitachi they said, not available in the US. Does'nt really matter much though since I have no metric bits. I think that would be harder to figure out the offsets. The larger guides from Oak Park or LeeValley get you pretty close to 40mm. And give the same benefits as far as chip(swarf) removal,and collett clearance.
You are so right Rusty, there is nothing magical about a 40mm guide, it is just a very convenient size for all the reasons you stated plus of course it's so easy to calculate off-sets.
Having said that, I do believe that the US will join the rest of the civilised world and become fully metric before I'm finally laid to rest.
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