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Introduction to the use of template guides

This is a discussion on Introduction to the use of template guides within the Guide Bushings and Templates forums, part of the Routers category; Tom, Thanks for your reply re: Template Guides. Will read and digest it well because ...



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Old 05-12-2008, 10:15 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Tom, Thanks for your reply re: Template Guides. Will read and digest it well because it is much appreciated detail.

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Old 05-13-2008, 03:36 AM   #32 (permalink)
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As we can see by the number of visits to this posting there was a great interest in the use of the template guides. I wonder if any of the members have actually made any projects to date and maybe they could post a few comments on what they thought of the method.
I have been giving some thought to a topic on Jig making. Say post a pic of an object or a process, then posting the actual jig constructed to produce the matter. I am not suggesting posting a bought jig but a jig made in your workshop to produce the item.

I am quite willing to start the ball rolling so to speak with a jig I made to produce the cabinet handle illustrated below as an example. What do others think of the idea. I do not want to be seen as the only one submitting the projects and the jigs to make them.

It does not necessarilly have to be a completed project, say making a special joint or something like that would do. I have in the past posted some of my jigs to produce certain processes such as the Ski mode which has been developed by others.

Recently I have been spending some time storing my jigs and templates ready for easy access when I require them. Lately I have seached for jigs and templates that I developed some 15 years ago, now required in the making of my next collection of chairs. I also had to introduce some new jigs when I came to add the arm rests to the chairs to change them to carvers. I am sure I have posted pics of the chairs which are available in my Gallery but I have not posted any jigs or templates.

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Great looking chairs, very nice job. And the chatter back and forth, do me good. Thanks for being. Take care.
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Here are a few samples of projects which I consider can not be produced on the router table. With a few templates and Jigs they can be routered in the plunge mode.
Are there any router users on the forum actually using the template guides maybe they would like to put up their pics of the completed project.
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Re 40mm bushings, why not post on one of the model engineering forums to find a local model engineer who would turn one up ? It's not a big job for someone with a metal working lathe.

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Hi Peter

OR just make a ring out of plastic that will snap on a standard guide and get the 40mm OD...
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OR just make a ring out of plastic that will snap on a standard guide and get the 40mm OD...
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You're right up to a point Bj. The thing to remember is that the INSIDE diameter is also important, there's no point in fitting a 40mm sleeve on a 1" guide because it would defeat the purpose of a large guide and all the advantages that go with it, the most important being the ability of the chuck to pass through the guide for a deeper depth of cut.
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HI Harry

That's why I have a 1 1/2" guide, it's almost 40mm..and it can take on a 1" router bit easy..

40mm = 1.574" 1 1/2" = 1.500"
I did make a SMALL snap on ring for the 1 1/2" guide but it's very thin and it's plastic, the next one will be a brass ring..out of one of the lock ring nuts.

BUT I did make one to fit the 1" guide as well, most have a 1" brass guide in the set they have in the shop and it's not a big deal just to use a 3/4" router bit in place of a 1" router bit.. many router bits will slip right into the 1" brass guide easy...

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I think you may have missed my point about large size template guides which allow not only the cutter to pass through but also the CHUCK, thereby allowing a much deeper cut and no chance of sparks flying when the chuck touches the inside of a small guide. (please don't tell me that steel on brass doesn't make sparks, I know.) Lots of routologists use steel guides without any associated problems arising during decades of use.
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Well this one topic I can comment on even though Harry has explained it all very clearly. I have one concern. Bobj3 has posted a chart ( I am not sure if this is the same chart that Ed. first posted some years ago) The reason for the chart is to see at a glance the off-set with a varety of cutters. It is quite clear to me that the cutter described is a straight cutter. and that is fine if that is all you want to do. I must say I have never had a need to use the chart as the majority of cutters I am using are anything but straight (Samples enclosed) So I have to do some calculation whether it be on my computer or simply a mathematical calculationIt was a sad day that Ed decided to call it a day as he had a lot to offer this forum.

I think I should have come in earler to make this point. As you can see from the variety of cutters posted exactly what I am referring to. It is not easy to present the answers on a forum posting, that is why I have been working madly to produce the answers on DVDs. I still have a long way to go and I have decided not to give up the challenge.
Sent off today some more cash for another two computer programs which will assist in the presentations I intend completing in the near future. This is only a small section taken from My CD=ROMs and future DVDs

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