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**harrysin** · 08-02-2007, 10:53 AM

OK Bj, if you insist, but I didn't want to upset you by beating you to it. The lid that this template was designed for measured 9" x 4 1/2" but because the board that I have used was 5.5" wide, I decided to keep the original aspect ratio and make it 11" long. I shall decide later what sort and size box to make to fit under the lid!

Continued on next post

**harrysin** · 08-02-2007, 11:02 AM

As you can see,I make lots of mistakes, the secret is to learn how to hide them or in fact turn errors into features. Do all give this a try, it really can be fun and will, I'm sure teach you additional ways to use you're router. To prove that the router table is still an essential tool, I shall demonstrate this when I get round to making a box to fit the lid.

**bobj3** · 08-02-2007, 11:20 AM

Hi Harry

THANKS for the snapshots THANKS,Thanks

Now I'm sure many will give it a try, I for one will

Note,,,you didn't show the bit you used on the 1st.box but I'm sure most know it was cove (box) bit...

I like the ops, adds a new look to it

Hey Harry
I have a question for you . see snapshot below ▼
How would you set this one up ?, just add a space block on the end ? to the same setup as yours ?
http://www.pbs.org/wws/howto/cedarbox.html

Bj

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Originally Posted by harrysin

As you can see,I make lots of mistakes, the secret is to learn how to hide them or in fact turn errors into features. Do all give this a try, it really can be fun and will, I'm sure teach you additional ways to use you're router. To prove that the router table is still an essential tool, I shall demonstrate this when I get round to making a box to fit the lid.

template tom · 08-02-2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrysin

As you can see,I make lots of mistakes, the secret is to learn how to hide them or in fact turn errors into features. Do all give this a try, it really can be fun and will, I'm sure teach you additional ways to use you're router. To prove that the router table is still an essential tool, I shall demonstrate this when I get round to making a box to fit the lid.

Finally managed to access my son's computer so I will keep this short before I attempt to progress any further

OOps Harrry You share every thing
But you are the master at covering up your Mistakes
Tom

**challagan** · 08-02-2007, 09:23 PM

Very cool Mr. Harry! That is awesome. Thanks for all the photos etc. Saving some of these photos!

Corey

**harrysin** · 08-02-2007, 10:19 PM

Thanks for the comments,Bj,for that pattern you will have to wait for Tom,he has produced some very complex ones. I only demonstrate things that I have actually done. In Tom's above post he seems a bit surprised that I showed my mistakes, I did this on purpose so that beginners (and not so beginners) who make mistakes don't get upset and think they are somehow inadequate, it would have been easy for me to have started again and shown a perfect result but I'm sure the way that I did it was best.The cutter used in the first post was as you thought Bj, a cove (box),this current one is so that I can attempt to fit inlay, one day!

**bobj3** · 08-02-2007, 10:30 PM

Hi Tom

"Harry,,,,You share every thing" = not so

, he didn't share how he made the template and what sizes the inserts are..and how he made them..

Some may have a hard time making the template(s) without some help on this one point..

the templates are the real base to making the items

your way and now mind.

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Originally Posted by template tom

Finally managed to access my son's computer so I will keep this short before I attempt to progress any further

OOps Harrry You share every thing
But you are the master at covering up your Mistakes
Tom

**harrysin** · 08-03-2007, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobj3

Hi Tom

"Harry,,,,You share every thing" = not so

, he didn't share how he made the template and what sizes the inserts are..and how he made them..

Some may have a hard time making the template(s) without some help on this one point..

the templates are the real base to making the items

your way and now mind.

Bj, it was not my intention to hold anything back, it just didn't occur to me because it's not like precision engineering, I thought that knowing the method, all those interested would choose their own lid, guide and cutter sizes and experiment. For those not mathematically inclined (like me) cut you're lid and fit it into a jig, no need to make a complex one at this early stage, my previous posts show simple methods as they also show how simple it is to make the template, also don't forget Tom's sticky under template guides and routing. Make the template opening a bit smaller than the wood so that it sits on top and if necessary add packing pieces to prevent the template from rocking. Now hold different size guides in position and if necessary pencil where the cutter will cut, this way you can make the size of the pattern to suit you're own taste. Please don't hesitate to ask further questions, that's how we learn, I don't have secrets,even from my wife!(fingers crossed)
A word of advice, if laminating templates which will be photographed, use a plain one, the speckled one I used for this project produces very large files.

**bobj3** · 08-03-2007, 12:21 AM

Hi Harry

Thanks for the update :

Need one more for your snapshot #2 , to get the sq. to come out right

Bj

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrysin

Bj, it was not my intention to hold anything back, it just didn't occur to me because it's not like precision engineering, I thought that knowing the method, all those interested would choose their own lid, guide and cutter sizes and experiment. For those not mathematically inclined (like me) cut you're lid and fit it into a jig, no need to make a complex one at this early stage, my previous posts show simple methods as they also show how simple it is to make the template, also don't forget Tom's sticky under template guides and routing. Make the template opening a bit smaller than the wood so that it sits on top and if necessary add packing pieces to prevent the template from rocking. Now hold different size guides in position and if necessary pencil where the cutter will cut, this way you can make the size of the pattern to suit you're own taste. Please don't hesitate to ask further questions, that's how we learn, I don't have secrets,even from my wife!(fingers crossed)
A word of advice, if laminating templates which will be photographed, use a plain one, the speckled one I used for this project produces very large files.

**bobj3** · 08-03-2007, 12:25 AM

Harry

Sorry ,, I just saw it,,,it's hard to see..

same stock...

Bj

08-02-2007, 10:53 AM	#21
harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,333 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! OK Bj, if you insist, but I didn't want to upset you by beating you to it. The lid that this template was designed for measured 9" x 4 1/2" but because the board that I have used was 5.5" wide, I decided to keep the original aspect ratio and make it 11" long. I shall decide later what sort and size box to make to fit under the lid! Continued on next post Attached Thumbnails __________________ *Harry*
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harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,333 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! As you can see,I make lots of mistakes, the secret is to learn how to hide them or in fact turn errors into features. Do all give this a try, it really can be fun and will, I'm sure teach you additional ways to use you're router. To prove that the router table is still an essential tool, I shall demonstrate this when I get round to making a box to fit the lid. Attached Thumbnails __________________ *Harry*
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challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,002 View challagan's Gallery	Report This Post! Very cool Mr. Harry! That is awesome. Thanks for all the photos etc. Saving some of these photos! Corey __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/
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harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,333 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! Thanks for the comments,Bj,for that pattern you will have to wait for Tom,he has produced some very complex ones. I only demonstrate things that I have actually done. In Tom's above post he seems a bit surprised that I showed my mistakes, I did this on purpose so that beginners (and not so beginners) who make mistakes don't get upset and think they are somehow inadequate, it would have been easy for me to have started again and shown a perfect result but I'm sure the way that I did it was best.The cutter used in the first post was as you thought Bj, a cove (box),this current one is so that I can attempt to fit inlay, one day! __________________ *Harry*
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,285 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Harry Sorry ,, I just saw it,,,it's hard to see.. same stock... Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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