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**harrysin** · 08-04-2007, 05:48 AM

I thought I would submit this design which Harry and I had a great deal of discussion with some Years ago and I suppose this could also have been one of the reasons Harry was converted to the use of the guides.
Tom
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That really makes me realise how time has passed. If I remember correctly, I told Tom that I knew how to use the router and had been using a couple of them for many years and I think he was impressed, that is until I told him how I had made the pattern, which was by hand- making a male template from Hardboard, pinning it to the wood and going round it with what I later knew as a template guide but one that I thought for years was MY invention! The next time that I saw Tom he had drawings showing me how to make a FEMALE template that would produce a perfectly symmetrical pattern every time. Now, over the last few weeks I have shown how to make simple templates so why don't some of you make an attempt, bearing in mind it really is straight forward and the SINGLE template requires no special tools or skills.

gregW · 08-04-2007, 05:08 PM

nicely done Harry

...

you can almost hear hundreds of light bulbs turning on all over the world

gregW · 08-04-2007, 05:15 PM

Hi Tom,

I know how I would route that pattern, but after all the help and advice you've provided to me in the past it seems like I'm cheating

It's great to see you back on the forum!!

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I thought I would submit this design which Harry and I had a great deal of discussion with some Years ago and I suppose this could also have been one of the reasons Harry was converted to the use of the guides.
Tom

Doyle · 08-04-2007, 05:55 PM

Hi Harry, Doyle here.
That was a very good presentation. I truly like the mistakes, that places me a notch or two higher than I was before reading your post. You mention if only a handful of people are interested, it would not be worth the effort. I consider myself a part of the second half of your sentence, in that I am a reasonable show of interest as I am close to 300 lbs, I should count for more than one.So that makes it all worth while.
You do good work, looking forward to reading more posts.
Take care
Doyle

**harrysin** · 08-05-2007, 02:55 AM

Thanks for that Doyle.

**challagan** · 08-06-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by template tom

I thought I would submit this design which Harry and I had a great deal of discussion with some Years ago and I suppose this could also have been one of the reasons Harry was converted to the use of the guides.
Tom

I have been thinking about this design that Tom posted. I know how I would have done it then re read Harry's post and that would have been how I would have done it. I am looking forward to seeing how to do this one without pinning the pattern on top and following it with a guide to make a female pattern.

Corey

**bobj3** · 08-07-2007, 12:12 AM

Me too Corey

I would make it this way, but I'm sure it's not the way they would made it..

Template made with the sticks and a cir. cut in to 4 parts for the corners then drop it on the router table and use a trim router bit to make the template..

Bj

**harrysin** · 08-07-2007, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bobj3

Me too Corey

I would make it this way, but I'm sure it's not the way they would made it..

Template made with the sticks and a cir. cut in to 4 parts for the corners then drop it on the router table and use a trim router bit to make the template..

Bj

Bj, you're making hard work of this, I did give clues saying it was very simple and no special tools required. It's obvious that there IS interest out there so I shall put you all out of you're misery. I must confess that when Tom came up with this answer for me all those years ago, I couldn't believe it!
First, make the basic template using the method shown and is in Tom's sticky in template guides. Next, cut a strip of MDF or whatever material you're using, the width of which will determine the radius. Now cut four pieces from the strip,the same size as the width and glue one in each corner. No you won't end up with squares in the corners of the pattern. Think about it, the guide won't go into the corners, it's too big, so it will ride around the points, believe me, Tom taught me.
I forgot to mention that I have drawn black lines to show where the glue joints are beneath the "Formica", wasn't I right in saying it was simple? Over time you will all get the hang of Tom's methods and will be designing you're own templates, and that will really give you a buzz.

steveo · 08-07-2007, 06:15 AM

Pretty slick Harry, I'm starting to believe !
steveo

**harrysin** · 08-07-2007, 09:27 AM

As the late Al Johnson used to say "you aint seen nothing yet"

08-04-2007, 05:48 AM	#41
harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,241 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! I thought I would submit this design which Harry and I had a great deal of discussion with some Years ago and I suppose this could also have been one of the reasons Harry was converted to the use of the guides. Tom Attached Thumbnails question-harrysin-image447.gif That really makes me realise how time has passed. If I remember correctly, I told Tom that I knew how to use the router and had been using a couple of them for many years and I think he was impressed, that is until I told him how I had made the pattern, which was by hand- making a male template from Hardboard, pinning it to the wood and going round it with what I later knew as a template guide but one that I thought for years was MY invention! The next time that I saw Tom he had drawings showing me how to make a FEMALE template that would produce a perfectly symmetrical pattern every time. Now, over the last few weeks I have shown how to make simple templates so why don't some of you make an attempt, bearing in mind it really is straight forward and the SINGLE template requires no special tools or skills. __________________ *Harry*
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08-04-2007, 05:08 PM	#42
gregW Registered User Forum Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: California, USA Posts: 147 View gregW's Gallery	Report This Post! nicely done Harry ... you can almost hear hundreds of light bulbs turning on all over the world __________________ Greg -------------------------------
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08-04-2007, 05:55 PM	#44
Doyle Registered User Forum Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mariposa California USA Posts: 195 View Doyle's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Harry, Doyle here. That was a very good presentation. I truly like the mistakes, that places me a notch or two higher than I was before reading your post. You mention if only a handful of people are interested, it would not be worth the effort. I consider myself a part of the second half of your sentence, in that I am a reasonable show of interest as I am close to 300 lbs, I should count for more than one.So that makes it all worth while. You do good work, looking forward to reading more posts. Take care Doyle __________________ Our tools and machines never take prisoners!
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08-05-2007, 02:55 AM	#45
harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,241 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! Thanks for that Doyle. __________________ *Harry*
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08-07-2007, 12:12 AM	#47
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,102 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Me too Corey I would make it this way, but I'm sure it's not the way they would made it.. Template made with the sticks and a cir. cut in to 4 parts for the corners then drop it on the router table and use a trim router bit to make the template.. Bj Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 08-07-2007 at 12:39 AM.
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steveo Registered User Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: central Illinois Posts: 163 View steveo's Gallery	Report This Post! Pretty slick Harry, I'm starting to believe ! steveo
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08-07-2007, 09:27 AM	#50
harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,241 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! As the late Al Johnson used to say "you aint seen nothing yet" __________________ *Harry*
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