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**challagan** · 08-04-2007, 01:25 PM

OK, don't laugh at my little attempt at a jig holder

This is as far as I got, it's a B out there in the shop today. Plus I realized I have no MDF for templates as I was going to cut some blank templates to fit the holder.

I made mine 12 x 14 inside dimensions. It fits better in the storage of my router cabinet and this one will be for making box lids primarily. I took Harry's advise and am keeping this one simple and will just pin the lids in place for routing and make the templates the size of the frame. If I use this one I will make a nice version with inserts or Tnuts etc. I added a cleat to the bottom so I can hold this in my Workmate jaws. I may also add a cleat in the bottom and take a cue from Bobj and make it so I can drop it in the router table top.

Also what do you use for most of your templates... 1/4 or 1/2 inch mdf or their metric counterparts

Thanks Harry and Bobj for answering my questions. So what do you think?

Templates are going to be my problem. Round and ovals etc. should be no problem but I don't understand the process in getting those nice square templates without running into rounded edges. Anyway I always make this stuff more difficult.

Thanks,
Corey

**Bob** · 08-04-2007, 01:54 PM

I think we are going to have to start calling you "Template Corey".

Nice job buddy and I plan on joining the ranks soon as well.

**bobj3** · 08-04-2007, 02:47 PM

Hi Corey

That should work great Bud...

You did a nice job /////

" I don't understand the process in getting those nice square templates without running into rounded edges"
No big deal , you will see Tom and Harry clip off the corners on the templates anyway on the OD of the templates,,,so they can pull them out easy and quick, the space blocks and the pattern inside the templates again no big deal just use the table saw to make the spacer blocks and because the guides ride in the inside of the template it will be true...

Keep the snapshots coming bud

Did you make the skis yet

Again not big deal for most of the template work but they do help support the router and help keep it flat and true to the template, I like the skis for putting in slots,that's always a hard job on small parts and jigs...and you know I like to make jigs alot...and put slots in them....for adjustments..
I did need to rework the set I made for the handles on the router I used.
so you may want to check yours all so...it only comes into play when you move the skis in all the way...plus the lock down part for the plunger of the router..the base plate I'm using will take on the Big Oak Park brass guides and the offset rings up to 100mm...

Bj

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Originally Posted by challagan

OK, don't laugh at my little attempt at a jig holder

This is as far as I got, it's a B out there in the shop today. Plus I realized I have no MDF for templates as I was going to cut some blank templates to fit the holder.

I made mine 12 x 14 inside dimensions. It fits better in the storage of my router cabinet and this one will be for making box lids primarily. I took Harry's advise and am keeping this one simple and will just pin the lids in place for routing and make the templates the size of the frame. If I use this one I will make a nice version with inserts or Tnuts etc. I added a cleat to the bottom so I can hold this in my Workmate jaws. I may also add a cleat in the bottom and take a cue from Bobj and make it so I can drop it in the router table top.

Also what do you use for most of your templates... 1/4 or 1/2 inch mdf or their metric counterparts

Thanks Harry and Bobj for answering my questions. So what do you think?

Templates are going to be my problem. Round and ovals etc. should be no problem but I don't understand the process in getting those nice square templates without running into rounded edges. Anyway I always make this stuff more difficult.

Thanks,
Corey

**challagan** · 08-04-2007, 03:07 PM

Thanks Bob. No skis yet... don't know how soon I will be able to get to that. On the template... I was actually referring to the template or pattern itself, like the one used to make Harry's carved pattern on the lid question that he recently posted. I guess I just don't understand that whole process in getting a nice square template to use in the holder. I can't use a scroll saw to saw out the pattern anymore since I sold it and I couldn't get it perfectly square anyway that way. Seems like a ton of filing and it still wouldn't be square. Like I said before, I am probably making it too difficult but.. that's me! I have several plastic templates.. such as a oval, diamond and a star. I think I can just center those on the mdf and make one easy and in different sizes using different guides that fit into the holder real nice. But the square ones get me

Corey

Corey

**challagan** · 08-04-2007, 04:24 PM

I am kind of jazzed now. I had mentioned to Bobj last night that I wondered if the jig holder could possibly work with the Milescraft Spirocrafter inlay and design tool. I forgot about it and made the jig holder this morning. While looking at my other commercial plastic templates I got the spirocrafter out. I was jazzed to find that what I made nearly fits the base perfectly. I just have to shave down some stock to hold it on all sides and pin it in centered. When using it then I will pin in the stock and put the jig in place like it was a mdf template and pin it in and it's ready to go.

For Harry or anyone not familiar with this tool you can do carvings using various portions of the templates included and there are 100's of combinations that you can use to make the designs in the instructions or your own. I am posting a shot of the jig the way it is supposed to be used and then some of the things you can do on it.

Anyway, kind of jazzed that this will work in the holder as now I can use this, my plastic ones and the ones I will be making. I know Tom isn't a fan of commercial jigs but I am glad I can incorporate this into the holder and I think it will be easier to use this way!

Corey

The first 2 photos are of the Spirocrafter in my jig. The 3rd photo is how the jig is used normally.. taped or clamped down. The rest of the photos are carvings created with the jig and they were not made by me.

For Bob, do you know if the new Sears plunge router will work with the Milescraft baseplate. I would like to get a plunge router to dedicate to that jig and can't be the price of that one. $70.00 for the plunger or 109. for the combo!

gregW · 08-04-2007, 04:33 PM

Hi Corey,

the square templates are the easy ones to make...doing it Tom and Harry's way you just use your table saw...same thing for the spacer blocks.

Tom gives details in the "Intro to template guides" file that he posted:

Intro to Template Guides

and Harry actual posted pictures of how he made the square template for his clock:

Harry's template

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Originally Posted by challagan

Thanks Bob. No skis yet... don't know how soon I will be able to get to that. On the template... I was actually referring to the template or pattern itself, like the one used to make Harry's carved pattern on the lid question that he recently posted. I guess I just don't understand that whole process in getting a nice square template to use in the holder. I can't use a scroll saw to saw out the pattern anymore since I sold it and I couldn't get it perfectly square anyway that way. Seems like a ton of filing and it still wouldn't be square. Like I said before, I am probably making it too difficult but.. that's me! I have several plastic templates.. such as a oval, diamond and a star. I think I can just center those on the mdf and make one easy and in different sizes using different guides that fit into the holder real nice. But the square ones get me

Corey

Corey

**challagan** · 08-04-2007, 04:48 PM

Greg, thanks for that. Now I am not fretting and stressing. Dont know how I missed that. Thanks bud!

Corey

**bobj3** · 08-04-2007, 04:54 PM

Hey that's cool Corey

Now I need to go out to the shop and try the one I have

Craftsman router = Yes, but go for the combo...you may not need it right off but once you have it you have it...

The one Harry posted is a easy one, take one more look it and I 'm sure you will see it right off... look at the last part he posted with the part sizes in the picture.

NOTE**** Corey
Think Bob R. and how he makes templates ,,4 sticks some small nails drill a hole, drop in on the router table top and make a template quick and easy on the router table..with the trim router bit..great job for the little router table with the Colt...

Bj

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Originally Posted by challagan

I am kind of jazzed now. I had mentioned to Bobj last night that I wondered if the jig holder could possibly work with the Milescraft Spirocrafter inlay and design tool. I forgot about it and made the jig holder this morning. While looking at my other commercial plastic templates I got the spirocrafter out. I was jazzed to find that what I made nearly fits the base perfectly. I just have to shave down some stock to hold it on all sides and pin it in centered.

For Harry or anyone not familiar with this tool you can do carvings using various portions of the templates included and there are 100's of combinations that you can use to make the designs in the instructions or your own. I am posting a shot of the jig the way it is supposed to be used and then some of the things you can do on it.

Anyway, kind of jazzed that this will work in the holder as now I can use this, my plastic ones and the ones I will be making. I know Tom isn't a fan of commercial jigs but I am glad I can incorporate this into the holder and I think it will be easier to use this way!

Corey

The first 2 photos are of the Spirocrafter in my jig. The 3rd photo is how the jig is used normally.. taped or clamped down. The rest of the photos are carvings created with the jig and they were not made by me.

For Bob, do you know if the new Sears plunge router will work with the Milescraft baseplate. I would like to get a plunge router to dedicate to that jig and can't be the price of that one. $70.00 for the plunger or 109. for the combo!

**challagan** · 08-04-2007, 05:19 PM

Thanks Bj, I think it will work well and it was jut blind butt luck that it nearly fits perfect as it was an after thought. I may just take it apart before I make any regular templates and just size it down to fit it perfectly without shims.

On the templates I see now in Greg's post that Tom makes these buy gluing them up. I never noticed that before. However, in the Question from Harrysin post.... Harry's template does not appear to be pieced together. It looks like it was pattern routed in?

Bob, I have some plastic templates that I want to use to make smaller versions of them using different guide sizes. These will be in MDF and will fit the full size of the jig holder. Should I use a 1/4 spiral downcut bit for this with many passes until cut all the way through? Going to have to get used to MDF... it isn't my favorite material

So damned dusty!

Yes, I think the combo is the way to go if I can swing it but I am trying to save for a bandsaw as well but might be able to fit it in.

Thanks
Corey

**bobj3** · 08-04-2007, 05:32 PM

Hi Corey

I know what you mean about the MDF but it's not to bad when you use 1/4" thick, but do you have a Rockler near by, if so some 1/4" brich plywood works great...the last time I ask for it at HD the guy said WHAT....brich what ,,,they don't make plywood out of brich,,,so to say I don't know if they have it on hand or not..

I almost always use the trim bit to make the templates sometime the brass guides if I have a base pattern...

BJ

08-04-2007, 01:25 PM	#1
challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,960 View challagan's Gallery	For Harry, Tom, Bobj and others... OK, don't laugh at my little attempt at a jig holder This is as far as I got, it's a B out there in the shop today. Plus I realized I have no MDF for templates as I was going to cut some blank templates to fit the holder. I made mine 12 x 14 inside dimensions. It fits better in the storage of my router cabinet and this one will be for making box lids primarily. I took Harry's advise and am keeping this one simple and will just pin the lids in place for routing and make the templates the size of the frame. If I use this one I will make a nice version with inserts or Tnuts etc. I added a cleat to the bottom so I can hold this in my Workmate jaws. I may also add a cleat in the bottom and take a cue from Bobj and make it so I can drop it in the router table top. Also what do you use for most of your templates... 1/4 or 1/2 inch mdf or their metric counterparts Thanks Harry and Bobj for answering my questions. So what do you think? Templates are going to be my problem. Round and ovals etc. should be no problem but I don't understand the process in getting those nice square templates without running into rounded edges. Anyway I always make this stuff more difficult. Thanks, Corey Attached Thumbnails __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/ Last edited by challagan; 08-04-2007 at 01:28 PM.
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08-04-2007, 01:54 PM	#2
Bob Forum Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Metro Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,256 View Bob's Gallery	I think we are going to have to start calling you "Template Corey". Nice job buddy and I plan on joining the ranks soon as well. __________________ Cheers, Bob Pictures from the shop http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/bnoles616/
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08-04-2007, 03:07 PM	#4
challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,960 View challagan's Gallery	Thanks Bob. No skis yet... don't know how soon I will be able to get to that. On the template... I was actually referring to the template or pattern itself, like the one used to make Harry's carved pattern on the lid question that he recently posted. I guess I just don't understand that whole process in getting a nice square template to use in the holder. I can't use a scroll saw to saw out the pattern anymore since I sold it and I couldn't get it perfectly square anyway that way. Seems like a ton of filing and it still wouldn't be square. Like I said before, I am probably making it too difficult but.. that's me! I have several plastic templates.. such as a oval, diamond and a star. I think I can just center those on the mdf and make one easy and in different sizes using different guides that fit into the holder real nice. But the square ones get me Corey Corey __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/
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08-04-2007, 04:24 PM	#5
challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,960 View challagan's Gallery	More Uses For Tom's Jig Holder.... I am kind of jazzed now. I had mentioned to Bobj last night that I wondered if the jig holder could possibly work with the Milescraft Spirocrafter inlay and design tool. I forgot about it and made the jig holder this morning. While looking at my other commercial plastic templates I got the spirocrafter out. I was jazzed to find that what I made nearly fits the base perfectly. I just have to shave down some stock to hold it on all sides and pin it in centered. When using it then I will pin in the stock and put the jig in place like it was a mdf template and pin it in and it's ready to go. For Harry or anyone not familiar with this tool you can do carvings using various portions of the templates included and there are 100's of combinations that you can use to make the designs in the instructions or your own. I am posting a shot of the jig the way it is supposed to be used and then some of the things you can do on it. Anyway, kind of jazzed that this will work in the holder as now I can use this, my plastic ones and the ones I will be making. I know Tom isn't a fan of commercial jigs but I am glad I can incorporate this into the holder and I think it will be easier to use this way! Corey The first 2 photos are of the Spirocrafter in my jig. The 3rd photo is how the jig is used normally.. taped or clamped down. The rest of the photos are carvings created with the jig and they were not made by me. For Bob, do you know if the new Sears plunge router will work with the Milescraft baseplate. I would like to get a plunge router to dedicate to that jig and can't be the price of that one. $70.00 for the plunger or 109. for the combo! Attached Thumbnails __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/ Last edited by challagan; 07-14-2008 at 10:37 PM.
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08-04-2007, 04:48 PM	#7
challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,960 View challagan's Gallery	Greg, thanks for that. Now I am not fretting and stressing. Dont know how I missed that. Thanks bud! Corey __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/
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08-04-2007, 05:19 PM	#9
challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,960 View challagan's Gallery	Thanks Bj, I think it will work well and it was jut blind butt luck that it nearly fits perfect as it was an after thought. I may just take it apart before I make any regular templates and just size it down to fit it perfectly without shims. On the templates I see now in Greg's post that Tom makes these buy gluing them up. I never noticed that before. However, in the Question from Harrysin post.... Harry's template does not appear to be pieced together. It looks like it was pattern routed in? Bob, I have some plastic templates that I want to use to make smaller versions of them using different guide sizes. These will be in MDF and will fit the full size of the jig holder. Should I use a 1/4 spiral downcut bit for this with many passes until cut all the way through? Going to have to get used to MDF... it isn't my favorite material So damned dusty! Yes, I think the combo is the way to go if I can swing it but I am trying to save for a bandsaw as well but might be able to fit it in. Thanks Corey __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/ Last edited by challagan; 08-04-2007 at 07:43 PM.
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 7,158 View bobj3's Gallery	Hi Corey I know what you mean about the MDF but it's not to bad when you use 1/4" thick, but do you have a Rockler near by, if so some 1/4" brich plywood works great...the last time I ask for it at HD the guy said WHAT....brich what ,,,they don't make plywood out of brich,,,so to say I don't know if they have it on hand or not.. I almost always use the trim bit to make the templates sometime the brass guides if I have a base pattern... BJ __________________ Bj
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