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Old 02-11-2008, 05:28 PM   #1
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Default Freud FT1700 Router and Guide Bushings

For those of you thinking about using your router for routing with universal guide bushings, I would suggest that you not consider the Freud FT1700 router. It does not come with an adapter ring and you have to order one, the FT1100. In my opinion, the design is very poor, in that you have to use two screws that mount in the base and catch the edge of the adapter. In trying to get the screws tight enough to keep the adapter ring from being loose and sliding around, a lot of torque needs to be applied. It was still loose as I was tightening it down when the metal insert that accepts the screw broke loose from the base. I had a Turnlock baseplate and metal bushing set that I replaced the base with, but it has two features that I don't really care for, one is its thickness which reduces the depth that can be cut, and two, it is about an inch wider than the original base.

Otherwise, I really like the Freud and without the guide bushing problem I use it ahead of the Bosch 1617 I have due to its' better viewing area for the cut. If anyone has found a better solution to this issue, I would appreciate knowing it.
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Old 02-11-2008, 05:42 PM   #2
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Hi dwwilson44

I have two Freud routers and the one that's in the set below will work great in the Freud router..
Plus if you want to go the extra step and get two sets, you can punch out one of the adapter rings to take on the bigger brass guides ( Oak-Park type 1 1/2" ID x 1 3/4" OD ) in that way you can use some of the bigger bits

You may say why would I want two sets, some of the brass guides are longer then you need sometimes and it just takes a min. to grind them down to 1/4" high lets say...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95160
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...000,51208&ap=1


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For those of you thinking about using your router for routing with universal guide bushings, I would suggest that you not consider the Freud FT1700 router. It does not come with an adapter ring and you have to order one, the FT1100. In my opinion, the design is very poor, in that you have to use two screws that mount in the base and catch the edge of the adapter. In trying to get the screws tight enough to keep the adapter ring from being loose and sliding around, a lot of torque needs to be applied. It was still loose as I was tightening it down when the metal insert that accepts the screw broke loose from the base. I had a Turnlock baseplate and metal bushing set that I replaced the base with, but it has two features that I don't really care for, one is its thickness which reduces the depth that can be cut, and two, it is about an inch wider than the original base.

Otherwise, I really like the Freud and without the guide bushing problem I use it ahead of the Bosch 1617 I have due to its' better viewing area for the cut. If anyone has found a better solution to this issue, I would appreciate knowing it.
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Thanks for the info, but I guess I am still not sure how those sets will get me around the problem that the FT1100 adapter ring will not get tight in the base. I could try a jerry rigged washer under the screws, but the space is very small and I am afraid that the screw receptacle is loose in the body of the original base. If it is, I don't have much choice other than to get another base, do I?
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Hi dw,

You may want to give Charles M a pm. He might be able to help ya out.
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Hi dwwilson44

The key is the BRASS , unlike steel the screw will grab the brass or to say put in a small dent in the brass , you can always just retap the screw hole to a SAE size unlike the metic one that's in it now...the next size up is just a bit bigger by just a little bit......if the ring is still lose just make a gasket out of some thin cardboard and place it under the ring...then lock in down in place..



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Thanks for the info, but I guess I am still not sure how those sets will get me around the problem that the FT1100 adapter ring will not get tight in the base. I could try a jerry rigged washer under the screws, but the space is very small and I am afraid that the screw receptacle is loose in the body of the original base. If it is, I don't have much choice other than to get another base, do I?
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Thanks for the info, but I guess I am still not sure how those sets will get me around the problem that the FT1100 adapter ring will not get tight in the base. I could try a jerry rigged washer under the screws, but the space is very small and I am afraid that the screw receptacle is loose in the body of the original base. If it is, I don't have much choice other than to get another base, do I?
dwwilson,

Sorry to hear of the problem. You should call our Power Tool, Parts and Repair Dept. at (800) 334-4107 (option 3) and I am confident we can get your router functioning properly.
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The Harbor Freight template guide bushings are the same same as the Freud FT2020 guide bushing set. I did pose a question about their use, which I sussed out.
I have no problem getting the adapters tight.

The real only problem I am having is the adaption of my Freud to my Ryobi Router Table. (The mounting surface is to thick) I can't find a drop in plate to fit the Freud FT 1700. I will do as others on this forum do make my own.

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Hi dwwilson44

I have two Freud routers and the one that's in the set below will work great in the Freud router..
Plus if you want to go the extra step and get two sets, you can punch out one of the adapter rings to take on the bigger brass guides ( Oak-Park type 1 1/2" ID x 1 3/4" OD ) in that way you can use some of the bigger bits

You may say why would I want two sets, some of the brass guides are longer then you need sometimes and it just takes a min. to grind them down to 1/4" high lets say...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95160
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...000,51208&ap=1


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Hi dwwilson44

The key is the BRASS , unlike steel the screw will grab the brass or to say put in a small dent in the brass , you can always just retap the screw hole to a SAE size unlike the metic one that's in it now...the next size up is just a bit bigger by just a little bit......if the ring is still lose just make a gasket out of some thin cardboard and place it under the ring...then lock in down in place..



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bobj3 You pushed me over the edge on desiding to get this .that will work . I wanted to use my Frued1700 with the PC dovetail jig whitch has its special guide bushing , and it 2-1/4 hp. , and for 11.00+ not a bad loss if it dont work . Thanks
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