Rail Help

bowtech · 01-07-2011, 09:27 PM

Hi all new guy here so please forgive my ignorance. I believe I saw a jig plan out here to help with making the rails. I tried searching but cannot find one. Or just would like some words of advice how to make good rails without rounding out the stock. I have made a few in the past free hand, some turn out OK others well lets just say... WOOD PUTTY.

Thanks appreciate any help you can give. Let me just say this is a GREAT forum have learned a lot from you so far.

Ralph Barker · 01-07-2011, 11:15 PM

Could you explain in more detail what you're looking for, or the problems you've had in the past, Shawn?

bowtech · 01-08-2011, 07:10 AM

When I try cutting my rail ends (to match the inside edge of the stile) I have tried it using just the fence and free hand but it is difficult keeping the piece straight especially at the end of the cut and it will round out the cut.

Hopefully that makes sense. Like I stated I am new so my terminology may be a bit off.

Thanks

**bobj3** · 01-08-2011, 10:35 AM

Hi

If you use a wide push block they will come out clean, the best way is to use wide stock then rip the stock to size after the pass..

Lets say, 1st. use the cutting with the bearing in the center of the bit,use 5" wide stock put the the cut in pace than switch bits and put the pattern cut on the edges than rip the stock( 2 7/16" or 2 1/2" wide the norm) and you have the two rails than run the pattern cut on on the edges of the stock for the other two parts for the door and rip it to the right size, now you have all 4 parts for the door.
Use the magic number of 4" to get the right size for the parts..

http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/somme...log/page27.pdf
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/somme...log/page28.pdf
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/somme...log/page29.pdf

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Originally Posted by bowtech

When I try cutting my rail ends (to match the inside edge of the stile) I have tried it using just the fence and free hand but it is difficult keeping the piece straight especially at the end of the cut and it will round out the cut.

Hopefully that makes sense. Like I stated I am new so my terminology may be a bit off.

Thanks

panzer · 01-13-2011, 08:06 PM

This site may help. woodjamproducts.com I have their stile, rail and raised panel jig.

**bobj3** · 01-13-2011, 09:18 PM

Hi John

Let me see if I got this right you use a big panel bit in your D-handle router ?, you got more guts than I have I guess..you must be using a panel bit without a back cutter, yes ?...

I saw the jig ,how about a snapshot of your router setup..I used router bits in many ways but not like that..

All the panel bits I have seen, state use in a router table ONLY..

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Originally Posted by panzer

This site may help. woodjamproducts.com I have their stile, rail and raised panel jig.

panzer · 01-14-2011, 07:37 PM

Hi Bob

Being new to woodworking you are probably asking the wrong person about the back cutter. I would say talk to John at woodjamproducts. My personal experience with him and his method was exceptional in every way. I would not say I have more guts than you, I would just say, I have just always been open minded to things out of the norm. With that being said, I feel very confident and safe using his product.

jdjerkay · 02-08-2011, 02:34 PM

I have been studying how best to make good rail and stile frames for raised panel doors. Rockler makes a jig for forming rails that looks like it would be a good investment.

walowan · 02-09-2011, 09:09 AM

If I understand your question what you need is a sled to clamp your pieces in which would keep them square to the fence....photos to follow soon.

**bobj3** · 02-09-2011, 09:32 AM

Hi

You don't need a sled, just a good push block, use wide stock (like 5 1/2" wide) and than rip it to size after you push it by the bit..then you will end up with two parts to the door frame , but b/4 you rip the stock down switch the bit out and put on the pattern (bead) pass on the stock,use the magic number of 4 to get the right size for the stiles.

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