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**bobj3** · 05-12-2006, 11:07 PM

Face Lift for the Router Fence

This is just a new way to setup a router fence, it's copy cat in a way of
Bob & Rick's and Marc Sommerfeld router table and Fence http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/

Bob and Rick have used this trick for a long time now I see others doing it the same way.

You pin one end of the fence and swing (Pivot) the other end into the bit and cut a pocket for the bit to make a chip breaker and to hide the black hole behind the fence and to help the vac. do it's job .

Marc S. new router table is about the same thing, lock one end and swing it into the fence, cut the pocket and then lock it down with a knob on the fence.

The jig (face lift ) is about the same but I have used the T & G on the center part, so you can make as many as you want and use the top and the bottom of the T & G blank.
Marc's fence and Bob & Ricks is poly. and this one is MDF because it's flat and true and CHEAP...
Marc's fence has it set up with a 10 deg.cuts on the center part that's quick and easy to replace just like this one but this one is a T & G to lock it into the fence and I try to use the router when every I can to make jigs for the router table.

Note***if you got lucky and got the free video,you will see Marc S. use his new fence and router table.

Links b/4 the face lift and snapshots after the face lift below, plus some other jigs I use.

http://www.routerforums.com/bargain-bin/2656-needs-bits.html
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2282
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2281
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2279

If you need more info just ask

Bj

Dr.Zook · 05-13-2006, 01:51 AM

Hey Bob, thats really a nice lookin fence set up you have there. I like the hold down jig and the push sticks too. Atta boy!

**Mike** · 05-13-2006, 03:03 AM

It's always interesting to see how others build their jigs and fixtures. Nice job BJ! I built my fence and first table using a plan from Shopnotes and added a few pieces of hardware from Rockler. The base for the table I bought at a garage sale for $5 with the switch box in place. It would of cost me more than $5 just for the switched outlet, handy box and cover.
The table is here:
http://routerforums.com/showpost.php?p=4909&postcount=8

The fence is here:
http://routerforums.com/showpost.php...4&postcount=12

**bobj3** · 05-13-2006, 09:17 AM

Thanks Doc and Mike

I think that's what this forum is all about show and tell and help others when you can

I wish every one would pop in a snapshot or two when they post, a picture is worth a 1000 words, they say and we all like to know more about what we like (ROUTERS)

in this case....

Here's a old router table I made and use all the time. ▼and a jig.

http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2277
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2284

Have a good weekend you guys

Bj

Gilbear · 05-13-2006, 10:01 AM

Looks really good Bob - I had started using my fence the same way a couple years ago as well - pegging one end and pivoting (I had posted about it quite a while back cause I'd never heard anybody talking about it and it's so handy)- the other nice thing about that is you can place a stop block behind the fence and go right back to the exact same place every time - makes it possible to adjust how much material you take in one pass with some of the bits that are tedious to get set-up for (lock miter, drawer lock, etc) - and you'll be right on every time. Thanks for the pictures.
By the way, I'd post pics more, but don't have a digital camera (old school I guess). I plan to get one soon for an upcoming trip though, so look out - you'll be seeing some real attrocities!

**bobj3** · 05-13-2006, 12:07 PM

Thanks Gilbear

I watch Bob and Rick show all the time and I was inpress the way Bob used the fence just about all the time, cut the pocket and then flush the bearing out with the brass set up bars...
So I said looks good to me and then I made a fence or two just like the one they use and started wiping out the fences left and right.
But I used hardwood and MDF
Got to be a way to not replace the fence all the time.
Then I saw the new fence that Marc came up with and I said that's it,drop in a blank center part only...

But I said lets take it one step more with the T & G to lock it in..and I can make 5 blanks or so at a time when I have the T & G bits in the router table.
Then I said ,wow it works ,great....and it's quick and easy to use and to use Bob's words 'make it simple'.
Here's a snapshot of some new push blocks I made, note the over size I found out that they really help when pushing and trying to hold the sock into the fence when running the stock upright, like putting in the slot in a face frame for case work.

http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2533
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2482

Just a note about the digital camera, I have 3 of them one I take every where that's a cheap one I got for 15.oo bucks and it works great and the others are the high end Kodak ones that I use on trips and alike..
The cheap one works the same as the Kodak, USB port hookup but I don't worrie about putting in my pocket or leave it in my car seat like I do when I have the Kodak with me.
They can just get up and walk off some how... hahahahaha...

Here's a link to the Cam. I got for 15.oo bucks
http://www.surpluscomputers.com/stor...&item=IMG10087

Have a good weekend
Bj

g-man · 06-04-2006, 12:32 PM

I think I did something like this before in another thread.

http://www.routerforums.com/showthre...homemade+fence

g-man

**bobj3** · 06-05-2006, 09:57 AM

g-man

Must be great minds think alike thing,,,,hahahahahahah

http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2575
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2279
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2281
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2282
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2280

Have a good one...

Bj

05-12-2006, 11:07 PM	#1
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,300 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Face Lift for the Router Fence Face Lift for the Router Fence This is just a new way to setup a router fence, it's copy cat in a way of Bob & Rick's and Marc Sommerfeld router table and Fence http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/ Bob and Rick have used this trick for a long time now I see others doing it the same way. You pin one end of the fence and swing (Pivot) the other end into the bit and cut a pocket for the bit to make a chip breaker and to hide the black hole behind the fence and to help the vac. do it's job . Marc S. new router table is about the same thing, lock one end and swing it into the fence, cut the pocket and then lock it down with a knob on the fence. The jig (face lift ) is about the same but I have used the T & G on the center part, so you can make as many as you want and use the top and the bottom of the T & G blank. Marc's fence and Bob & Ricks is poly. and this one is MDF because it's flat and true and CHEAP... Marc's fence has it set up with a 10 deg.cuts on the center part that's quick and easy to replace just like this one but this one is a T & G to lock it into the fence and I try to use the router when every I can to make jigs for the router table. Note**if you got lucky and got the free video,you will see Marc S. use his new fence and router table. Links b/4 the face lift and snapshots after the face lift below, plus some other jigs I use. http://www.routerforums.com/bargain-bin/2656-needs-bits.html http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2282 http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2281 http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2279 If you need more info just ask Bj Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 05-12-2006 at 11:43 PM.*
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05-13-2006, 01:51 AM	#2
Dr.Zook Official Greeter Supreme Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Lebanon, Ohio "USA" First Name: Dave or "Doc" Posts: 4,709 View Dr.Zook's Gallery	Report This Post! Hey Bob, thats really a nice lookin fence set up you have there. I like the hold down jig and the push sticks too. Atta boy! __________________ Dave the "Doctor" In woodworking there is no scrap, only firewood. Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you and make for a friendlier forum.
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05-13-2006, 03:03 AM	#3
Mike Senior Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, Michigan USA Posts: 3,378 View Mike's Gallery	Report This Post! It's always interesting to see how others build their jigs and fixtures. Nice job BJ! I built my fence and first table using a plan from Shopnotes and added a few pieces of hardware from Rockler. The base for the table I bought at a garage sale for $5 with the switch box in place. It would of cost me more than $5 just for the switched outlet, handy box and cover. The table is here: http://routerforums.com/showpost.php?p=4909&postcount=8 The fence is here: http://routerforums.com/showpost.php...4&postcount=12 __________________ Mike Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you. Last edited by Mike; 05-13-2006 at 03:08 AM.
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05-13-2006, 09:17 AM	#4
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,300 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Thanks Doc and Mike I think that's what this forum is all about show and tell and help others when you can I wish every one would pop in a snapshot or two when they post, a picture is worth a 1000 words, they say and we all like to know more about what we like (ROUTERS) in this case.... Here's a old router table I made and use all the time. ▼and a jig. http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2277 http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2284 Have a good weekend you guys Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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05-13-2006, 10:01 AM	#5
Gilbear Registered User Supreme Forum King Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,663 View Gilbear's Gallery	Report This Post! Looks really good Bob - I had started using my fence the same way a couple years ago as well - pegging one end and pivoting (I had posted about it quite a while back cause I'd never heard anybody talking about it and it's so handy)- the other nice thing about that is you can place a stop block behind the fence and go right back to the exact same place every time - makes it possible to adjust how much material you take in one pass with some of the bits that are tedious to get set-up for (lock miter, drawer lock, etc) - and you'll be right on every time. Thanks for the pictures. By the way, I'd post pics more, but don't have a digital camera (old school I guess). I plan to get one soon for an upcoming trip though, so look out - you'll be seeing some real attrocities!
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,300 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Thanks Gilbear I watch Bob and Rick show all the time and I was inpress the way Bob used the fence just about all the time, cut the pocket and then flush the bearing out with the brass set up bars... So I said looks good to me and then I made a fence or two just like the one they use and started wiping out the fences left and right. But I used hardwood and MDF Got to be a way to not replace the fence all the time. Then I saw the new fence that Marc came up with and I said that's it,drop in a blank center part only... But I said lets take it one step more with the T & G to lock it in..and I can make 5 blanks or so at a time when I have the T & G bits in the router table. Then I said ,wow it works ,great....and it's quick and easy to use and to use Bob's words 'make it simple'. Here's a snapshot of some new push blocks I made, note the over size I found out that they really help when pushing and trying to hold the sock into the fence when running the stock upright, like putting in the slot in a face frame for case work. http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2533 http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2482 Just a note about the digital camera, I have 3 of them one I take every where that's a cheap one I got for 15.oo bucks and it works great and the others are the high end Kodak ones that I use on trips and alike.. The cheap one works the same as the Kodak, USB port hookup but I don't worrie about putting in my pocket or leave it in my car seat like I do when I have the Kodak with me. They can just get up and walk off some how... hahahahaha... Here's a link to the Cam. I got for 15.oo bucks http://www.surpluscomputers.com/stor...&item=IMG10087 Have a good weekend Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 05-14-2006 at 11:01 AM.
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06-04-2006, 12:32 PM	#7
g-man Registered User Dedicated Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 47 View g-man's Gallery	Report This Post! I think I did something like this before in another thread. http://www.routerforums.com/showthre...homemade+fence g-man
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06-05-2006, 09:57 AM	#8
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,300 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! g-man Must be great minds think alike thing,,,,hahahahahahah http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2575 http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2279 http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2281 http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2282 http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2280 Have a good one... Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 06-05-2006 at 11:18 AM.
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