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Old 02-09-2012, 02:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hi everybody greetings from india.i just finished pantorouter the plans from matthias wandel.
after all this machine is based on router so thought i should post the pictures on this site.please have a look on my project.hope you would like it.if you have any question please feel free to ask


side pose of pantorouter


front side of pantorouter


template setting for mortise same like leigh fmt jigs


template setting for tenons


counter springs to make pantorouter light, different than the origional idea from woodgears.ca


then finally welding and drilling jig for pantograph mechanism to keep it precise and allign


i used turn pipe from scrap and put inside solid piece of steel same outer dia as router body and centered it 6mm




and put inside my welding and drilliing jig



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Old 02-09-2012, 09:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Any pictures of something made with the device?
Thanks for posting.
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Any pictures of something made with the device?
Thanks for posting.
i have uploaded video on youtube but i m not allowed to post this link untill i reach 10 post
so please search on youtube Pantorouter made from steel my username is hillpanther on youtube
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Neat project, Matthias would be proud!

thank you for sharing,
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Great tool for making a fence out of 2 x 4 stock, the fence company's would love it for making stockade fences..

By the way are using a 1/2" drill bit ?


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Hello!

Well done !

Strong construction.

Last week I have first discovered this pantorouter from Matthias Wandel

Pantorouter

Looking for ways to ease operations like tenon, mortice and dovetailing.

I like it at first, but at second thought, did wonder Why shall i get bothered

About making models for this machine 2 times bigger than actual size of my project...

A lot easier would be to make models at real scale.

So what about a simple 1/1 scale copying pantograph ?

Its only a matter of placing a sensing finger same size than cuttter size.

Seen some made of wood that are made to copy sculptures, i think they could

also copy tenons , mortice, dovetails.

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Thanx bobj3!! i m using12mm hitachi hss endmill which is good for tenon but for mortising it's not really good.in the video you can see i m taking almost double time to mortising compare to tenon.i m sure if i will use upcut spiral router bit result wouldbe totally different.i do have leigh carbide upcut spiral bit but it's 1/2 inch shank but my hitachi router has 12mm colt.could you please suggest my any extra long 12mm plunge cut router bit?i mean 75mm cutting lenth.
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Hello!
Those cutters looks very difficult to find, i' m looking too for long ones
The biggest i have bought is a 50mm deep from Trend and it's a straight 1/2" bit.
-Could you tell me where to find some long ones like 75 mm ?
-About your problem, I suggest you buy a 1/2" collet for that motor so you will
have more choice for your cutters.

My router is a Metabo OFE 1812 comming with metric 12mm, I just bought a 1/2" and a 8mm collet made for Dewalt 625 And they fits perfectly.

It was quite difficult to find information about collets compatibility, and i don't remember
Where i found it out, but it looks like professional big routers use same standart for collets.

Metabo OFE18102= Dewalt625 = trend t11 = Old Big Elu MOF ??

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Those cutters looks very difficult to find, i' m looking too for long ones
The biggest i have bought is a 50mm deep from Trend and it's a straight 1/2" bit.
-Could you tell me where to find some long ones like 75 mm ?
-About your problem, I suggest you buy a 1/2" collet for that motor so you will
have more choice for your cutters.

My router is a Metabo OFE 1812 comming with metric 12mm, I just bought a 1/2" and a 8mm collet made for Dewalt 625 And they fits perfectly.

It was quite difficult to find information about collets compatibility, and i don't remember
Where i found it out, but it looks like professional big routers use same standart for collets.

Metabo OFE18102= Dewalt625 = trend t11 = Old Big Elu MOF ??

Regards

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i m really sorry ggom20 that i don't know which router bit you can use.because i have used end mill in the video you can see which is not good for plunge route when i made mortise with endmill i had to use very little feed everytime,iwhen i used long feed rate my endmill start shaking and i feel its gonna be broken but if you will use spiral upcut bit you don't need to worry about this problem but as you know plunge router
maximum plunge is 65mm so i don't think it will help you.
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hello!
Thank you for the care you took to give me this answer.
You are right, an upcut spiral cutter should do better.
Unfortunatly, i was not able to find one except asking for a special make.
Some manufacturers could make it from solid carbide but I did not even ask.
As I am very sure it would bee a bit too expensive for me.

For my specific problem of finding cutters, I started a new thread, as it is a specific
problem to me, having soon to make gig mortices:

http://www.routerforums.com/router-b...p-mortice.html

You can see there I ordered a 1/2" diameter 3 "" cutter, hope it will be a good tool.

The plunge router for this job is a Metabo OFE1812 (discontinued type) and has a plunge

capacity of 82mm so a 3"" (75mm) cutter will fit.

Nowadays there is an other router that plunges 80mm: the trend T11.

I think your construction of pantorouter is a great tool and that I may be able to build
something similar, using my plunge router or an other motor to move the bit.
So, like for you, plunge distance wouldl not be a problem anymore.

Traditional Japanese house building uses dovetailing in large woods like 120mmx120mm,
the use of a router or milling machine would help a lot making those nice joinery.
I keep thinking of it and of milling machines for making a better job.


Just a last thing: the cutter I ordered is no spiral, then the same problem will affect
my work: the mortice will be full of dust. I will try my air compressor with a thin copper
pipe to blow air in the mortice. At 6 Bars pressure it blows quite a lot.

I hope things go well for you and that you find good solutions for your works.

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