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**Mike** · 11-18-2006, 06:46 AM

"And they say romance is dead..."

**bobj3** · 11-18-2006, 09:55 AM

Router

That's the best way to break them in, LOL take them to the HD and Rockler but in turn she takes me to the shoe store and see lets me drive/push the cart at the food store and the sewing supply stores

She has put up with me for 44 years and taking them to the wood working stores works for me in that way when I need a item I can send her off to get it ,she knows the store just like I do.

Plus when I ask to pickup something for me she gets just what I want without buying all the extra stuff I pickup when I go.
As far romance she gets flowers 4 times a year the norm and night out now and then without a stop at the tool store.

She could care less about wood working just like I care less about her sewing and making blankets, last year she made 26 blankets for Xmax. and did a great job on all of them and I made a ton of wood toys.

Have a good weekend
Bj

Router is still my name · 11-18-2006, 02:03 PM

Onward with training them.

Here's the upgraded version Bj.

mpphoto · 11-18-2006, 02:35 PM

Veeeery interesting.

This is why I shouldn't read posts from either of you guys. I've got a backlog of a dozen or so jigs I want to make and now this... argh!
Coincidentally MLCS happens to be in my area. I have a feeling I'll be talkin to you fellers about these jigs

Michael

Router is still my name · 11-18-2006, 03:45 PM

Well, Bj is the jig MEISTER.

But MLCS has greate deal on both dovetail templates so go for it Michael.
Although I would get the 1/2 shank combo.

jigs are like router bits,you can never have enough.

This box joint template is going for around $60 these days.

**bobj3** · 11-18-2006, 04:00 PM

TWITA Router

Looks good ,nice job

do you clamp it to the side of the bench or on top on the bench right next to the edge . ?, do you have " L" brackets on the back side to hold it down to the top ?

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Originally Posted by Router is still my name

Onward with training them.

Here's the upgraded version Bj.

**bobj3** · 11-18-2006, 04:19 PM

Router

I ran the 1/2" shank around in my head for a day or so and decided on the 1/4" because you need to use a 5/8" brass guide with the MLCS jigs and the 1/2" shank would be just a bit to close, it's true that a 1/16" is good as a mile when it comes to routers and bits but because you are using a 3/4" dovetail bit well it's just a bit to tight for me, all it takes is a small bump from the shank/bit and the Alum. jig is junk or the brass guide is junk if the bit breaks the brass lock nut free, hang on for a free ride on the demo router express.

Note about the box joint template....
"This box joint template is going for around $60 these days."
Can't find the big/long one I found the (17 slot) 24" for 59.oo bucks with free shipping but no luck yet on the long one (25 slots) .

http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-5...5?ie=UTF8&s=hi

So if you have a link PLEASE let me know, thanks
Also can you please check your Template for a part number sometimes PC will stamp a part number in them ,that would help looking for it or a call to the service center if all eles fails,but it would be a high price item from them I'm sure.

Bj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Router is still my name

Well, Bj is the jig MEISTER.

But MLCS has greate deal on both dovetail templates so go for it Michael.
Although I would get the 1/2 shank combo.

jigs are like router bits,you can never have enough.

This box joint template is going for around $60 these days.

Router is still my name · 11-18-2006, 07:35 PM

Thank Bj.
I clamp it against to the router table since I need the height for routing 48 inch long. I either use vertical clamping or horizontal. Since it’s 28” long and has 25 slots, it still leaves room on each side for vertical clamping.

Unfortunately there is no stamp/part number on it. I looked just in case.

But,I think that Amazon might have the pictures mixed up or using the same picture for both templates.
This is the link for 7123 the 28.5 inch template which is same size as mine and it’s for ½” box joint and yet there are only 17 slots which it does not make sense .

I would call the PC support and not Amazon to confirm!! The one you posted is 5123.

http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-7...1?ie=UTF8&s=hi

If that’s not it, it could be one of those things PC made a few and then decided that no one will use the full length or something. Just guessing.As I said it is from back in early 90’s.

meanwhile, here's the first jig I ever made back in 91.

**bobj3** · 11-18-2006, 08:16 PM

Hi Router

Thanks for the info

Looks like they don't made the 28" one any more

Snapshot ▼ from the PC User Manual. (PDF File)

Bj

I didn't know they made a add on fixture so one could made sliding dovetail on the PC jig, learn something new every day .

see snapshots below ▼

Router is still my name · 11-18-2006, 08:40 PM

Never know, keep an eye on eBay. I see few omni jigs. maybe some one will have the 28/25 one of these days.

Well, these are resonable price less than PC and about the same size.

http://www.hartvilletool.com/product/10973

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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,300 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Router That's the best way to break them in, LOL take them to the HD and Rockler but in turn she takes me to the shoe store and see lets me drive/push the cart at the food store and the sewing supply stores She has put up with me for 44 years and taking them to the wood working stores works for me in that way when I need a item I can send her off to get it ,she knows the store just like I do. Plus when I ask to pickup something for me she gets just what I want without buying all the extra stuff I pickup when I go. As far romance she gets flowers 4 times a year the norm and night out now and then without a stop at the tool store. She could care less about wood working just like I care less about her sewing and making blankets, last year she made 26 blankets for Xmax. and did a great job on all of them and I made a ton of wood toys. Have a good weekend Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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Router is still my name Registered User Forum King Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 533 View Router is still my name's Gallery	Report This Post! Onward with training them. Here's the upgraded version Bj. Attached Thumbnails
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mpphoto Registered User Forum Fanatic Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 133 View mpphoto's Gallery	Report This Post! Veeeery interesting. This is why I shouldn't read posts from either of you guys. I've got a backlog of a dozen or so jigs I want to make and now this... argh! Coincidentally MLCS happens to be in my area. I have a feeling I'll be talkin to you fellers about these jigs Michael
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Router is still my name Registered User Forum King Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 533 View Router is still my name's Gallery	Report This Post! Well, Bj is the jig MEISTER. But MLCS has greate deal on both dovetail templates so go for it Michael. Although I would get the 1/2 shank combo. jigs are like router bits,you can never have enough. This box joint template is going for around $60 these days.
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Router is still my name Registered User Forum King Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 533 View Router is still my name's Gallery	Report This Post! Thank Bj. I clamp it against to the router table since I need the height for routing 48 inch long. I either use vertical clamping or horizontal. Since it’s 28” long and has 25 slots, it still leaves room on each side for vertical clamping. Unfortunately there is no stamp/part number on it. I looked just in case. But,I think that Amazon might have the pictures mixed up or using the same picture for both templates. This is the link for 7123 the 28.5 inch template which is same size as mine and it’s for ½” box joint and yet there are only 17 slots which it does not make sense . I would call the PC support and not Amazon to confirm!! The one you posted is 5123. http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-7...1?ie=UTF8&s=hi If that’s not it, it could be one of those things PC made a few and then decided that no one will use the full length or something. Just guessing.As I said it is from back in early 90’s. meanwhile, here's the first jig I ever made back in 91. Attached Thumbnails
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,300 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Router Thanks for the info Looks like they don't made the 28" one any more Snapshot ▼ from the PC User Manual. (PDF File) Bj I didn't know they made a add on fixture so one could made sliding dovetail on the PC jig, learn something new every day . see snapshots below ▼ Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 11-18-2006 at 08:38 PM.
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Router is still my name Registered User Forum King Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 533 View Router is still my name's Gallery	Report This Post! Never know, keep an eye on eBay. I see few omni jigs. maybe some one will have the 28/25 one of these days. Well, these are resonable price less than PC and about the same size. http://www.hartvilletool.com/product/10973
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