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tiredbones · 04-09-2007, 07:18 PM

I hope Swann is on his way with the PC Hinge Jig. I have one and I think it has great possibilities if I ever get to use it! Let me explain...

I've been a general handyman for over 50 years but occasionally something stumps me. I recently acquired a Porter Cable Hinge Butt Jig #59280 for doing some door installations. It's main advantage is once it's setup you can route the mortises on the door and the jamb with the same setup and everything matches perfectly. The downside is the template guide that it requires is PC 1-3/16", a Porter Cable standard also used by several other makers. Unfortunately, my Hitachi TR-8 is not one of the compatible ones.

My choices seem to be find an adapter or buy a new router. As much as I would like to, a new router is too much strain on the budget. With all the expertise that must be available on this forum there must be at least one solution out there. I don't want to return the jig because it is exactly the right tool for the job. I've built my own hinge jigs at various times and they work for a given situation but they are a one-shot deal. The next door is always different or the hinge is different or something. Enough! I now have a jig that will do it all if I can find a way to use it.

Suggestions, anyone?

**bobj3** · 04-09-2007, 07:44 PM

Hi tiredbones

Take a look at the link below and the snapshot

Bj

10 PC ROUTER TEMPLATE GUIDE SET
You may need to drill the holes in the brass apt.to mount it to your router.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95160

will fit Hitachi models: M8, M8V, TR8,TR12, M12SA, M12V.
▼
http://item.express.ebay.com/Industr...mdZExpressItem

OR
can go this way ▼
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...R8&btnG=Search

Woodnut65 · 04-10-2007, 07:24 AM

Hi, Tiredbones. PC guides are all 1 3/16ths. but what is the required guide to do the job? 5/8ths 1/2" . Oak-Park sells 7 inch square base plates if you get one that fits your
TR 8, you could use the Oak Park guide and ring nut. They are 1 1/2" but you can buy just the size guide that you need . ie 5/8 ths 1/2" etc. Hope this helps.
Woodnut65

tiredbones · 04-12-2007, 02:16 PM

Hi, Woodnut65,

The required guide IS a PC guide, 1-3/16, but it's extra long to reach all the guiding surfaces in their rather deep jig. As you probably know, a PC guide bushing fits an Oak Park base like a BB fits a basketball hoop. A simple solution, if Oak Park were amenable, is to machine a reducing bushing with an external 1-1/2 thread and internal 1-3/16 thread. If I had a lathe I would do just that. It's not a difficult problem. It would have the added advantage of making the Oak Park bases able to accept the rest of the world's guide bushings especially these special purpose ones.

One can only hope...

TB

Woodnut65 · 04-12-2007, 03:11 PM

Hi TB: Would the adapter in the set of guides that BJ shows do any good for your problem? I have that set of guides with that adapter and I have no use for it.
Where abouts are you located? Maybe I could mail it to you. Woodnut65

tiredbones · 04-12-2007, 07:43 PM

Hi WN: I'm not sure about that adapter. It could have possibilities but I don't get the four holes. It might be worth a try.

It would help to see it installed. I'll email you an address.

TB

**bobj3** · 04-12-2007, 08:00 PM

Hi TB

Go back 4 post up ▲ and you will see it installed.
also see the eBay link same post

The four holes are for other types of routers

Bj

tiredbones · 04-12-2007, 10:45 PM

Sorry, BJ, I didn't notice the adapter mounted in that router. That looks like it might work.

Thanks, TB

**bobj3** · 04-12-2007, 10:48 PM

Hi TB

You didn't miss it I just added it when you said you wanted to see it mounted.

Plus the link for the ebay item, it shows your router as one that can use it.

Bj

04-09-2007, 07:18 PM	#1
tiredbones Registered User New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7 View tiredbones's Gallery	Report This Post! Same Jig: Different problem I hope Swann is on his way with the PC Hinge Jig. I have one and I think it has great possibilities if I ever get to use it! Let me explain... I've been a general handyman for over 50 years but occasionally something stumps me. I recently acquired a Porter Cable Hinge Butt Jig #59280 for doing some door installations. It's main advantage is once it's setup you can route the mortises on the door and the jamb with the same setup and everything matches perfectly. The downside is the template guide that it requires is PC 1-3/16", a Porter Cable standard also used by several other makers. Unfortunately, my Hitachi TR-8 is not one of the compatible ones. My choices seem to be find an adapter or buy a new router. As much as I would like to, a new router is too much strain on the budget. With all the expertise that must be available on this forum there must be at least one solution out there. I don't want to return the jig because it is exactly the right tool for the job. I've built my own hinge jigs at various times and they work for a given situation but they are a one-shot deal. The next door is always different or the hinge is different or something. Enough! I now have a jig that will do it all if I can find a way to use it. Suggestions, anyone?
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,298 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi tiredbones Take a look at the link below and the snapshot Bj 10 PC ROUTER TEMPLATE GUIDE SET You may need to drill the holes in the brass apt.to mount it to your router. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95160 will fit Hitachi models: M8, M8V, TR8,TR12, M12SA, M12V. ▼ http://item.express.ebay.com/Industr...mdZExpressItem OR can go this way ▼ http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...R8&btnG=Search Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 04-12-2007 at 07:55 PM.
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Woodnut65 Registered User Forum Geek Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 345 View Woodnut65's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi, Tiredbones. PC guides are all 1 3/16ths. but what is the required guide to do the job? 5/8ths 1/2" . Oak-Park sells 7 inch square base plates if you get one that fits your TR 8, you could use the Oak Park guide and ring nut. They are 1 1/2" but you can buy just the size guide that you need . ie 5/8 ths 1/2" etc. Hope this helps. Woodnut65
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04-12-2007, 02:16 PM	#4
tiredbones Registered User New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7 View tiredbones's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi, Woodnut65, The required guide IS a PC guide, 1-3/16, but it's extra long to reach all the guiding surfaces in their rather deep jig. As you probably know, a PC guide bushing fits an Oak Park base like a BB fits a basketball hoop. A simple solution, if Oak Park were amenable, is to machine a reducing bushing with an external 1-1/2 thread and internal 1-3/16 thread. If I had a lathe I would do just that. It's not a difficult problem. It would have the added advantage of making the Oak Park bases able to accept the rest of the world's guide bushings especially these special purpose ones. One can only hope... TB
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04-12-2007, 03:11 PM	#5
Woodnut65 Registered User Forum Geek Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 345 View Woodnut65's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi TB: Would the adapter in the set of guides that BJ shows do any good for your problem? I have that set of guides with that adapter and I have no use for it. Where abouts are you located? Maybe I could mail it to you. Woodnut65
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04-12-2007, 07:43 PM	#6
tiredbones Registered User New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7 View tiredbones's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi WN: I'm not sure about that adapter. It could have possibilities but I don't get the four holes. It might be worth a try. It would help to see it installed. I'll email you an address. TB
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,298 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi TB Go back 4 post up ▲ and you will see it installed. also see the eBay link same post The four holes are for other types of routers Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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04-12-2007, 10:45 PM	#8
tiredbones Registered User New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7 View tiredbones's Gallery	Report This Post! Sorry, BJ, I didn't notice the adapter mounted in that router. That looks like it might work. Thanks, TB
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04-12-2007, 10:48 PM	#9
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,298 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi TB You didn't miss it I just added it when you said you wanted to see it mounted. Plus the link for the ebay item, it shows your router as one that can use it. Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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