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Jigs and Fixtures This area will be directed towards the art of designing specific jigs and fixtures. Bob and Rick say, "if the specific operation is to make more than one piece the same size and shape then chances are you need a jig and/or fixtures."


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Old 06-02-2007, 10:28 AM   #21
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Hi Cowboy

The only thing that would hold your brain strom back would be the round router base plate is not over size that's to say it's flush with the Alum. base of the router the norm ,it needs to be over size by a min. of 1/2" all the way around the base to support the router when it's in the router table, if you look real close at the snapshots you will see I have 3/8" on the one I used, that was a standard PC base plate because I want to use the 1 3/16 brass guides on the table as well,,,,
You could make a base plate to fit your 1.5hp Ryobi that's over size but I don't know of anyone that makes one as a Fac.item.
They can be tricky to make because they need to be dead on, mounting holes and the center hole for the bits...

I'm not sure what size the Ryobi is but you can buy after market base plates from MLCS that are true.
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I also have a Craftsman base plate that is 7" in dia. that will take on the PC brass guides and MilesCraft make a 7 1/2" base plate that will fit most routers BUT it has the TurnLock type guides.., BUT both would work I think on the Ryobi router...
The 7" maybe a just a bit to small but like I said I'm not sure what the Ryobi base is.
Someone will say the plate will spin or turn in place on the router table and that can be fixed easy with a 1/16" roll pin in the router table top and a small slot in the router base plate.

Then one more thing, you must keep in mind is can you drop the router in the router table hole without taking the handles or knobs off the router.

That's why most use the sq. plate.. it gives you room to pop it in the hole easy the norm...the round plate works great for the trim routers because they don't have handles the norm or knobs to hang on to.

The table top I made and the hole I put in is dead on so I didn't need the roll pin to lock it in place or to say keep it from turning.








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Looks GREAT
And raises a brainstorming question for me -
Any reason it would be a less than good idea to use an oversize round base like that to mount a 1.5hp Ryobi --- instead of a large square insert.
My thought is they are both less expensive -- AND --- could be just left on the router when I needed to use it hand held.
Still workin on my first cup of coffee --- so logic may well be flawed ----
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:02 PM   #22
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HANDLES ---
See -- I KNEW there was something I was overlooking --
Thanks.

I was thinking I had seen some 3rd party bases that were larger than my standard base. My current base is 6" so at 7" - the Craftsman would have been just right EXCEPT for the handles.

Thanks for mentioning that it DID accept PC bushings though.
I just this morning bought a Rockler dovetail jig.
They warned me it might be a trick finding a base that would fit my Ryobi AND accept the PC bushing -- but --
it was already on sale for $75 and they had a promo going that got it down to $49 --- INCLUDING the bit and bushing -- So I couldnt resist.

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Old 06-02-2007, 03:25 PM   #23
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Hi Cowboy
You'er Welcome


The plates from MLCS will need to be drilled out to fit your router I'm sure the MilesCfraft TurnLock plate will have the holes you need I'm sure of that and it will come with the bushing that you can use on the Rockler jig... I have all the MilesCraft jigs (products) and the bushing will hold up...

Milescraft 1200 TurnLock Universal Router Base Plate Kit

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Thanks again -- see edited post above.
I really enjoyed visiting with the guys at Rockler this morning
(my first time in that particular store)
gonna go back and give them a shot at fitting me.
(they suggested I come back WITH my router to be sure)
But if they can't -- I'll swing back by the big orange box and get the Milescraft.
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Hi Cowboy

If you buy it at BOB besure to read the box, they come with the 6" OR the 7" plates and also take note of the price it jumps all over the place from store to store and from outlet to outlet

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Thanks again -- see edited post above.
I really enjoyed visiting with the guys at Rockler this morning
(my first time in that particular store)
gonna go back and give them a shot at fitting me.
(they suggested I come back WITH my router to be sure)
But if they can't -- I'll swing back by the big orange box and get the Milescraft.
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Great can't wait to see that DC Bob. I will post pics of the BJ jig. I have eveything cut out. Nothing fancy like yours. Just about the same dimensions but will be for just 1/4 joints as for now that is what most of my boxes are. I have only the 1/4 and 3/8 jigs. I don't think I would ever use the 1/2. Actually I plan to make a 1/8 for making the hinges like you posted... that, they 1/4 is what most of mine will be. Anyway, will take a pic when I get it done. I cut everything out last night. Just have to cut the handle out on the jig saw, router it and assemble.

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Old 06-03-2007, 04:50 PM   #27
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Sorry Bob N.

I didn't want to cover up your new post about the new way to hold the parts for the doing the box joints but I didn't want to start a new post about the same thing.

Just some add on snapshots..
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That is great BJ and I like how it flips out of the way etc. Neat little box as well. That doesn't look like hardboard for the top I like it!!

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Hi Corey

Thanks, it's that nasty hardboard that will nail/dull router bits, it's the suff you see in some cheap cabinets for the walls, etc..

When I flip the vac. pickup down it will suck up the chips that come over the end of the router table like dado's cuts and alike..

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That is great BJ and I like how it flips out of the way etc. Neat little box as well. That doesn't look like hardboard for the top I like it!!

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Bj,

We are friends here and I would have had no problem where ever you wanted to post it.

I love those shots and I am sure seeing a Colt in my very near future. You have got all kinds of neat ideas going on in those pictures..... This is like a bank robber's dream come true Can I steal some more of those?
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