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Jigs and Fixtures This area will be directed towards the art of designing specific jigs and fixtures. Bob and Rick say, "if the specific operation is to make more than one piece the same size and shape then chances are you need a jig and/or fixtures."


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Old 02-28-2008, 11:13 AM   #1
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Default Stiff 1/4” material for a coping sled?

I’m using my current coping sled:



But the ¾” MDF I used as the base is too fricken high. In order to make the cut I need with my slot cutter the shaft of the bit is only about ½” in the collet. I know this is not the best thing for safety or accuracy. I can see that the cuts don’t come out as precise when the bit is used this way. So I’d like to make another version of this sled with a ¼” thick base. But with the strong force of the toggle clamps I need the material to be as stiff as possible. My 1st thought is this carbon fiber laminate I used to use on model airplanes:



http://www.dragonplate.com/ecart/categories.asp?cID=3

It’s incredibly stiff and incredibly expensive!

Any other ideas would be appreciated as I don’t think standard ¼” ply is going to cut it!

THANKS!
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:31 AM   #2
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Hi Nickbee

I take my lead from Bob R and Rick R. of the RWS and use 1/4" thick plastic....but I do put on sand paper so the parts don't slip around,, I have made many jigs this way and it works well..

I will say I think you use one two many hold downs, one will do the trick most of the time the sand paper trick helps alot...

One note about hold downs most use a cam action and it's not needed most of the time a simple block of wood with a knob will do the the trick in that way it will not deform the base.(cup/bend the base)

If you take a look at my gallery you will see many of them but not all ..

But this is just my 2 cents


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I am no expert but, there is some great information about a coping sled in this discussion:
http://www.routerforums.com/general-...ping-sled.html
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BTW, look what's on sale at MLCS:

http://www.mclswoodworking.com/shops...sled_sale.html

Anyone have some feedback on these? The extra large sled looks sweet and simular to what I'm using now.
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Or I can get a ¼” Phenolic plate and make this some kind of sled again…

http://cgi.ebay.com/PHENOLIC-BLACK-L...QQcmdZViewItem
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Hi Nickbee

They work well

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BTW, look what's on sale at MLCS:

http://www.mclswoodworking.com/shops...sled_sale.html

Anyone have some feedback on these? The extra large sled looks sweet and simular to what I'm using now.
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Hi Nickbee

It's bit high in price for a a 7" x 12" (28.oo bucks)

Give McMaster a try they list all types at some good prices..
type in PHENOLIC
http://www.mcmaster.com/


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Or I can get a ¼” Phenolic plate and make this some kind of sled again…

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Hi Nickbee

They work well

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I like the look of that sled more and more... And I take it the little "grove" that will cut into that base won't be an issue (see the pic of the current sled I'm using to see what I mean)....

Thanks BJ!
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Hi Nickbee

If you mean the rabbit I don't think it would be a big deal,, just put it in the new one the same way..

At one time MLCS was giving a Free backup block ( the black one) ..if you buy one you may want to ask for it...it's item they sale for about 8.00 bucks if I recall free is free

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X-LARGE SLED & FREE EXTRA BLOCK"
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Great BJ it's going on order! Thanks again!
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