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**harrysin** · 10-11-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by john heff

Hello Harry,
I missed seeing that template in your post the first time that I viewed it, thanks for pointing it out to me. Speaking of that shot #4, I am totally confused and hope you can set me straight (I hope I can describe it so that you can understand it).
It appears to me that the router is positioned 'right-center' on the rods and is also at the right side of the template. Do you slide the router back-and-forth on the rods while you are running the router? i.e. when you are cutting a square pattern do you slide/move the WOODEN SKIS when making the vertical cuts and then slide the router ON THE RODS to make the horizontal cuts (leaving the wooden skis in position without moving them horizontally)? Or is the router fixed FIRMLY to the rods and you move only the skis to make the cut? Or can you do it BOTH ways? Regards, John

John, the router IS locked onto the skis and it's position depends on the project and size of the bench. It isn't unusual for me to re-position the router on the skis several times whilst routing so that the skis don't drop off the table. This link to an earlier project of mine showing how to rout a trinket box out of solid wood should give you an insight into ski routing.

http://www.routerforums.com/guide-bu...ff-router.html

I've just had a peep at that project and see that in those days photographs would become jumbled irrespective of the order in which they were posted, also it was before I learnt how to add text.

allthunbs · 10-12-2008, 07:46 PM

Harry and Bob: Hold on a minute.

I bought two pieces about 14" long of 12mm threaded steel rod. It was all I could find. I figured I could put the boards on the end and use thumbscrews to locate the router across the bars. But the way you two talk, is you fix the locations of the end boards and they pretty much stay there. I have to assume from the pictures I've seen, that you adjust the height of the router at the boards, but locate the router with the thumbscrews?

allthunbs

**bobj3** · 10-12-2008, 10:55 PM

HI allthunbs

That's what I do but Harry doesn't care for all thread rod but it works great for me..

I will say I don't need to make a template(s) or use one with the all threaded rod..just lock the stock in place move the router into place lock it with the thumb screws and drop and slot...

here's a shot of a feather boards I made today with the ski jig...(a pair of them)
Putting in a slot can be tricky but it's easy with the ski jig and it's safe way...

3/4" thick Cherry , 3/8" wide slot 5" long...

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Plus you will see RustyW setup below..

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**harrysin** · 10-13-2008, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allthunbs

Harry and Bob: Hold on a minute.

I bought two pieces about 14" long of 12mm threaded steel rod. It was all I could find. I figured I could put the boards on the end and use thumbscrews to locate the router across the bars. But the way you two talk, is you fix the locations of the end boards and they pretty much stay there. I have to assume from the pictures I've seen, that you adjust the height of the router at the boards, but locate the router with the thumbscrews?

allthunbs

Hi AT, whilst your rods are rather on the short side, limiting the projects that can be accomplished, they are still long enough for heaps of small projects. The rods are adjusted at the end cheeks so that the base of the router is just a little clear of the wood, it's important that all four corners are at the same height. With my rods it's only necessary to tighten a wing nut at each corner, but with threaded rod you would require a nut and washer on each side of the cheek at each corner. With short rods like yours, the router would be locked at approx. centre of the rods with the screws that are on the router for securing the supplied side fence. Once the skis have been set, the router's depth stops are used to determine the cut. The attached photo, whilst showing the router mounted on my circle cutting jig, illustrates how the router is locked on the rods. Don't forget that the assembly is controlled by holding the end cheeks, NOT the router.

allthunbs · 10-13-2008, 03:01 PM

Have you ever done it the other way? i.e. lock the skis and slide the router across the rods? I have a bunch of grooves to cut in some face frames. The sticks are 4/8/12 feet long. I was going to gang a bunch together and using a template and guide bushing do them that way. However, if all I have to do is slid the skis into place, lock them and cut the grooves, that would be a lot quickier. Suggestions?

Allthunbs

**bobj3** · 10-13-2008, 03:20 PM

Hi Allthunbs

I have not try that, the router likes to move when it starts the pass..

I would try this, clamp the router in place then lock it in place then just slide the stock under the router base.
With some boards on both side of the stock to keep it running true under the router..

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Quote:

Originally Posted by allthunbs

Have you ever done it the other way? i.e. lock the skis and slide the router across the rods? I have a bunch of grooves to cut in some face frames. The sticks are 4/8/12 feet long. I was going to gang a bunch together and using a template and guide bushing do them that way. However, if all I have to do is slid the skis into place, lock them and cut the grooves, that would be a lot quickier. Suggestions?

Allthunbs

oleo40 · 10-14-2008, 03:03 PM

I am very new to this site but is there some where to find the plans for Ski's. Very interesting but not sure how/to from the pictures I see [or not Seeing]
Ole

**Mike** · 10-14-2008, 09:42 PM

Ole, you can build your own with out any plans. The size of your workbench comes into play with how wide you can build your ski's. A good size would be rods 18" in length, that should cover most small projects. The rods need to be 1/2" diameter to keep from flexing. Insert them through your router so they are even on both sides, apply some lipstick to the ends of the rods and then press them against the wooden end pieces. This will transfer a nice mark where the two holes need to be drilled. Repeat for the other side. This should have you on the right track.

**bobj3** · 10-14-2008, 10:41 PM

Hi Mike

I learn something new ever day on the great forum I guess that's why I like it so much, I didn't know you had a set of the ski jig..

I would love to see your setup...on the Bosch router..maybe I can steal a tip or two from your setup for the next set I'm going to make..

I'm going to pickup a Bosch router just for kicks and give it a try out..

Just some snapshots would do the trick I think..

thanks

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Originally Posted by Mike

Ole, you can build your own with out any plans. The size of your workbench comes into play with how wide you can build your ski's. A good size would be rods 18" in length, that should cover most small projects. The rods need to be 1/2" diameter to keep from flexing. Insert them through your router so they are even on both sides, apply some lipstick to the ends of the rods and then press them against the wooden end pieces. This will transfer a nice mark where the two holes need to be drilled. Repeat for the other side. This should have you on the right track.

levon · 10-20-2008, 10:44 PM

i have been looking and im sure i missed it, but what are skis used for?

10-12-2008, 07:46 PM	#32
allthunbs Registered User Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 93 View allthunbs's Gallery	Report This Post! Harry and Bob: Hold on a minute. I bought two pieces about 14" long of 12mm threaded steel rod. It was all I could find. I figured I could put the boards on the end and use thumbscrews to locate the router across the bars. But the way you two talk, is you fix the locations of the end boards and they pretty much stay there. I have to assume from the pictures I've seen, that you adjust the height of the router at the boards, but locate the router with the thumbscrews? allthunbs
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10-12-2008, 10:55 PM	#33
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,095 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! HI allthunbs That's what I do but Harry doesn't care for all thread rod but it works great for me.. I will say I don't need to make a template(s) or use one with the all threaded rod..just lock the stock in place move the router into place lock it with the thumb screws and drop and slot... here's a shot of a feather boards I made today with the ski jig...(a pair of them) Putting in a slot can be tricky but it's easy with the ski jig and it's safe way... 3/4" thick Cherry , 3/8" wide slot 5" long... ==== Plus you will see RustyW setup below.. ======== Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 10-18-2008 at 08:57 PM.
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10-13-2008, 03:01 PM	#35
allthunbs Registered User Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 93 View allthunbs's Gallery	Report This Post! Have you ever done it the other way? i.e. lock the skis and slide the router across the rods? I have a bunch of grooves to cut in some face frames. The sticks are 4/8/12 feet long. I was going to gang a bunch together and using a template and guide bushing do them that way. However, if all I have to do is slid the skis into place, lock them and cut the grooves, that would be a lot quickier. Suggestions? Allthunbs
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10-14-2008, 03:03 PM	#37
oleo40 Registered User New Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2 View oleo40's Gallery	Report This Post! I am very new to this site but is there some where to find the plans for Ski's. Very interesting but not sure how/to from the pictures I see [or not Seeing] Ole
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10-14-2008, 09:42 PM	#38
Mike Senior Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, Michigan USA Posts: 3,331 View Mike's Gallery	Report This Post! Ole, you can build your own with out any plans. The size of your workbench comes into play with how wide you can build your ski's. A good size would be rods 18" in length, that should cover most small projects. The rods need to be 1/2" diameter to keep from flexing. Insert them through your router so they are even on both sides, apply some lipstick to the ends of the rods and then press them against the wooden end pieces. This will transfer a nice mark where the two holes need to be drilled. Repeat for the other side. This should have you on the right track. __________________ Mike
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10-20-2008, 10:44 PM	#40
levon Registered User Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: tifton georgia Posts: 94 View levon's Gallery	Report This Post! ski sled? i have been looking and im sure i missed it, but what are skis used for? __________________ levon
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