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**Mike** · 08-16-2007, 10:37 PM

It's official, Saturday August 18th is going to be another "Sawdust Saturday". Anybody who will be in the Detroit area is welcome to attend. PM me for directions.
Last time we had a blast getting to know each other a bit. On the very informal agenda for this day is a session building the "Magic Box". We are also going to make templates for some Xmas decorations (time to start building them now!) and a rocking Adirondack chair. We will also be playing with on going projects like the tile clocks and plant stands. Afterwards we are planning on a meal of good mexican food at the Azteca in Warren. Photos will be posted so the rest of you can share somewhat in our fun.
This is also the day of the Woodward Dream Cruise. If you love cars you should google this event.

AxlMyk · 08-19-2007, 02:21 PM

I got to Mike's to find he and Neal hard at work on a chair.. I think they were waiting for me to show up to make sure they were doing it right.. Looked good to me..

Then we got to work making a majic box.. Set the RT up and went to work..
Got all the pieces routed, glued up, and rubber banded together and called lunch..

The Woodward Dream Cruise was going on, and the Goodyear blimp was flying over our heads all day..

Finished routing with a roundover bit and the box was done.. Wallah..

Harry, we really do have black squirrels in Michigan..

**challagan** · 08-19-2007, 02:44 PM

Excellent guys! Man that router table is really a tall stretch

The chair looks great as well as the magic box. Got to make a magic box myself and for those that don't have it the book shown in the photos is an excellent one from Bob & Rick... available from Oak Park.

Mike, we have had the black squirrel here in Council Bluffs for many years and is part of our cities heritage. Blacky the black squirrel is our town mascot.
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/set/squirrelsblack.html

**bobj3** · 08-19-2007, 03:34 PM

Looks like you all had a great time and and made some great items

BUT I think next time you should make the chair a bit bigger for MIKE LOL

Here is a big boy and needs one that will support him when he falls asleep in the chair...in the back yard watching the squirrels

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Originally Posted by AxlMyk

I got to Mike's to find he and Neal hard at work on a chair.. I think they were waiting for me to show up to make sure they were doing it right.. Looked good to me..

Then we got to work making a majic box.. Set the RT up and went to work..
Got all the pieces routed, glued up, and rubber banded together and called lunch..

The Woodward Dream Cruise was going on, and the Goodyear blimp was flying over our heads all day..

Finished routing with a roundover bit and the box was done.. Wallah..

Harry, we really do have black squirrels in Michigan..

rmaxa · 08-19-2007, 03:54 PM

Mike, looks like you guys had a very productive day. I especially like the Adirondack chair.

**Bob** · 08-19-2007, 05:00 PM

That was a very some agressive work crammed into one day. Both projects turned out great! The box is a lot of fun to make and I recommend that any one that has not tried it should do so. What wood did y'all use for the box? The chair looks inviting for a fair weather day but with the heat we have been having, I prefer mine indoors for the time being

Nice work and I'll bet it was fun for all.

Mike, do you always work with the router table that high?

**Mike** · 08-19-2007, 06:56 PM

We did have fun working on the Magic Box. The wood the box was made from came as part of the kit with the table in the photo. It is 3/8" clear pine, and with all the humidity was slightly cupped but not enough to warrant straightening it out. We also made a trivet using the 1/4" box joint jig and a 1/4" up-cut spiral bit.(see photo) That is another learning item that is included in the table kit. It is two pieces of 3/8" clear pine glued cross grain. You simply make the passes through the jig following the direction of the grain, flip and rotate the wood and continue. A larger version with contrasting wood is a super gift idea that is quick and easy to make.
No, I do not usually work with the table that high. I normally clamp it to a pair of folding saw horses. I happened to have the black Craftsman roller cabinet here to sell it for a friend. I simply set the table on top of it when I opened my garage, and the height was fine for both Neal and I. I think Mike would of been uncomfortable working at that height but he was acting cameraman for the day. The pieces we were working with were all smaller than 6" long.
The chair is very comfortable, it is sold by Harbor Freight for $50 as a kit. I am on their mailing list and got a coupon for a special purchase price of $19.99. You would easily spend $20 buying the wood, so this was a very good deal. BJ, you might be surprised to know that that chair fit me pretty well, and was sturdy enough that I have no qualms about it failing. The chair was a part of my wife's birthday present, and she loves it. It fits her perfectly, just the right height. She is stuck on the color she wants it stained and keeps glancing at a Minwax catalog. She is leaning towards "Ocean Blue" at the moment. Once she decides I will post a photo of the finished product.
While we were taking our lunch break I chamfered the edges of my "Tile Clock" and glued it up. Once it is finished I will post photos of the process in the clock thread.
We had a great day, nice weather and good company. Mix in a little sawdust, what more could you ask for?

**challagan** · 08-19-2007, 09:39 PM

That's a cool kit Mike. Like you said, wood alone would cost more than 20. bones! Wish there were guys here local to do this same thing with.. glad you all had fun!

Corey

**bobj3** · 08-19-2007, 11:24 PM

Hi Mike

That's a good price

,, on the kit...

I DON't see any one wearing safety glasses or any ear plugs ...with router table that high it maybe be a good thing to use.. (glasses) right in the line of site so to speak....the GUY with the RED hat needs a pair ,for sure LOL LOL

One more question ,,,did you use Stainless Screws in the chair ?

One more thing,,, I see you are on the wrong side of the bit ( see picture below) when you are putting on the round over on the edges,,, it's not a safe way of doing it,,, the norm , when you get in a jam you would pull away from the bit and if the bit is in front of you can't pull away you can push away but this is not the norm for most people,, they want to get away quick from the spining bit ....

But to each own... but I thought I would just say a word about it..

Bj

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We did have fun working on the Magic Box. The wood the box was made from came as part of the kit with the table in the photo. It is 3/8" clear pine, and with all the humidity was slightly cupped but not enough to warrant straightening it out. We also made a trivet using the 1/4" box joint jig and a 1/4" up-cut spiral bit.(see photo) That is another learning item that is included in the table kit. It is two pieces of 3/8" clear pine glued cross grain. You simply make the passes through the jig following the direction of the grain, flip and rotate the wood and continue. A larger version with contrasting wood is a super gift idea that is quick and easy to make.
No, I do not usually work with the table that high. I normally clamp it to a pair of folding saw horses. I happened to have the black Craftsman roller cabinet here to sell it for a friend. I simply set the table on top of it when I opened my garage, and the height was fine for both Neal and I. I think Mike would of been uncomfortable working at that height but he was acting cameraman for the day. The pieces we were working with were all smaller than 6" long.
The chair is very comfortable, it is sold by Harbor Freight for $50 as a kit. I am on their mailing list and got a coupon for a special purchase price of $19.99. You would easily spend $20 buying the wood, so this was a very good deal. BJ, you might be surprised to know that that chair fit me pretty well, and was sturdy enough that I have no qualms about it failing. The chair was a part of my wife's birthday present, and she loves it. It fits her perfectly, just the right height. She is stuck on the color she wants it stained and keeps glancing at a Minwax catalog. She is leaning towards "Ocean Blue" at the moment. Once she decides I will post a photo of the finished product.
While we were taking our lunch break I chamfered the edges of my "Tile Clock" and glued it up. Once it is finished I will post photos of the process in the clock thread.
We had a great day, nice weather and good company. Mix in a little sawdust, what more could you ask for?

**Mike** · 08-20-2007, 01:53 AM

BJ you are absolutely correct that the guy in the red hat should of been wearing safety glasses. I am struggling to remember to put them on. I used to wear glasses full time so I am used to always having them on. My vision improved to the point I no longer need to wear them, and this time I forgot. I did wear them for the last Sawdust Saturday. I wear my ear plugs in the shop, but as a rule do not wear them outdoors where the noise is not reflected back at me by walls.
I do not agree with you about being on the "wrong side" of the bit. Once a small work piece has been properly angled into a bearing guided bit and is on the bearing, I find it much more stable to circle the bit with the item rather than try to turn the item. There are arguments for both ways of performing this operation safely, and even for not using an exposed cutter in the table at all. I know I am most comfortable with this method.
The hardware that came with the chair kit was plated, not stainless. When I build a copy of this chair I will use stainless fasteners and all my screw holes will be plugged as well.

08-16-2007, 10:37 PM	#1
Mike Senior Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, Michigan USA Posts: 3,380 View Mike's Gallery	Report This Post! Another Sawdust Saturday - 8/18 It's official, Saturday August 18th is going to be another "Sawdust Saturday". Anybody who will be in the Detroit area is welcome to attend. PM me for directions. Last time we had a blast getting to know each other a bit. On the very informal agenda for this day is a session building the "Magic Box". We are also going to make templates for some Xmas decorations (time to start building them now!) and a rocking Adirondack chair. We will also be playing with on going projects like the tile clocks and plant stands. Afterwards we are planning on a meal of good mexican food at the Azteca in Warren. Photos will be posted so the rest of you can share somewhat in our fun. This is also the day of the Woodward Dream Cruise. If you love cars you should google this event. __________________ Mike Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you. Last edited by Mike; 08-16-2007 at 10:39 PM.
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08-19-2007, 02:21 PM	#2
AxlMyk Registered User Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hartland, Mi. USA First Name: Mike Posts: 1,019 View AxlMyk's Gallery	Report This Post! Sawdust Saturday 2 pics I got to Mike's to find he and Neal hard at work on a chair.. I think they were waiting for me to show up to make sure they were doing it right.. Looked good to me.. Then we got to work making a majic box.. Set the RT up and went to work.. Got all the pieces routed, glued up, and rubber banded together and called lunch.. The Woodward Dream Cruise was going on, and the Goodyear blimp was flying over our heads all day.. Finished routing with a roundover bit and the box was done.. Wallah.. Harry, we really do have black squirrels in Michigan.. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Mike - Retired FoMoCo Tradesman My Gallery @ http://www.routerforums.com/axlmyks-stuff/
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08-19-2007, 02:44 PM	#3
challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,002 View challagan's Gallery	Report This Post! Excellent guys! Man that router table is really a tall stretch The chair looks great as well as the magic box. Got to make a magic box myself and for those that don't have it the book shown in the photos is an excellent one from Bob & Rick... available from Oak Park. Mike, we have had the black squirrel here in Council Bluffs for many years and is part of our cities heritage. Blacky the black squirrel is our town mascot. http://www.roadsideamerica.com/set/squirrelsblack.html __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/
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08-19-2007, 03:54 PM	#5
rmaxa Registered User Forum King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rochester, NY First Name: Rolf Posts: 562 View rmaxa's Gallery	Report This Post! Mike, looks like you guys had a very productive day. I especially like the Adirondack chair. __________________ Rolf http://www.rochesterwoodworkers.org/index.html
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08-19-2007, 05:00 PM	#6
Bob Forum Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 2,542 View Bob's Gallery	Report This Post! That was a very some agressive work crammed into one day. Both projects turned out great! The box is a lot of fun to make and I recommend that any one that has not tried it should do so. What wood did y'all use for the box? The chair looks inviting for a fair weather day but with the heat we have been having, I prefer mine indoors for the time being Nice work and I'll bet it was fun for all. Mike, do you always work with the router table that high? __________________ Cheers, Bob
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08-19-2007, 06:56 PM	#7
Mike Senior Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, Michigan USA Posts: 3,380 View Mike's Gallery	Report This Post! We did have fun working on the Magic Box. The wood the box was made from came as part of the kit with the table in the photo. It is 3/8" clear pine, and with all the humidity was slightly cupped but not enough to warrant straightening it out. We also made a trivet using the 1/4" box joint jig and a 1/4" up-cut spiral bit.(see photo) That is another learning item that is included in the table kit. It is two pieces of 3/8" clear pine glued cross grain. You simply make the passes through the jig following the direction of the grain, flip and rotate the wood and continue. A larger version with contrasting wood is a super gift idea that is quick and easy to make. No, I do not usually work with the table that high. I normally clamp it to a pair of folding saw horses. I happened to have the black Craftsman roller cabinet here to sell it for a friend. I simply set the table on top of it when I opened my garage, and the height was fine for both Neal and I. I think Mike would of been uncomfortable working at that height but he was acting cameraman for the day. The pieces we were working with were all smaller than 6" long. The chair is very comfortable, it is sold by Harbor Freight for $50 as a kit. I am on their mailing list and got a coupon for a special purchase price of $19.99. You would easily spend $20 buying the wood, so this was a very good deal. BJ, you might be surprised to know that that chair fit me pretty well, and was sturdy enough that I have no qualms about it failing. The chair was a part of my wife's birthday present, and she loves it. It fits her perfectly, just the right height. She is stuck on the color she wants it stained and keeps glancing at a Minwax catalog. She is leaning towards "Ocean Blue" at the moment. Once she decides I will post a photo of the finished product. While we were taking our lunch break I chamfered the edges of my "Tile Clock" and glued it up. Once it is finished I will post photos of the process in the clock thread. We had a great day, nice weather and good company. Mix in a little sawdust, what more could you ask for? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Mike Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you.
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08-19-2007, 09:39 PM	#8
challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,002 View challagan's Gallery	Report This Post! That's a cool kit Mike. Like you said, wood alone would cost more than 20. bones! Wish there were guys here local to do this same thing with.. glad you all had fun! Corey __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/
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08-20-2007, 01:53 AM	#10
Mike Senior Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, Michigan USA Posts: 3,380 View Mike's Gallery	Report This Post! BJ you are absolutely correct that the guy in the red hat should of been wearing safety glasses. I am struggling to remember to put them on. I used to wear glasses full time so I am used to always having them on. My vision improved to the point I no longer need to wear them, and this time I forgot. I did wear them for the last Sawdust Saturday. I wear my ear plugs in the shop, but as a rule do not wear them outdoors where the noise is not reflected back at me by walls. I do not agree with you about being on the "wrong side" of the bit. Once a small work piece has been properly angled into a bearing guided bit and is on the bearing, I find it much more stable to circle the bit with the item rather than try to turn the item. There are arguments for both ways of performing this operation safely, and even for not using an exposed cutter in the table at all. I know I am most comfortable with this method. The hardware that came with the chair kit was plated, not stainless. When I build a copy of this chair I will use stainless fasteners and all my screw holes will be plugged as well. __________________ Mike Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you.
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