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Gilbear · 04-06-2006, 02:45 PM

Ric, didn't hear what?
Thanks to all of you - yeah those were more what I had in mind - and basic is just my style! Lots of stuff to think about now! Thanks again.

**bobj3** · 04-06-2006, 03:47 PM

Gilbear

"BJ, how fast was your buddy's sander able to take down stock?"

Quick when he use 36grit. paper and real nice with the 150 grit. paper.
He got the sand paper rolls from http://www.Grizzly.com. (H4776 and G2789 and the H4424 )
He use cardboard tubes to make it quick and easy switch out. from Home Depot "carpet cardboard paper tubes" he also tried PVC pipe but that's didn't work to well, to slick on the inside.

Bj

**Mike** · 11-05-2006, 04:58 AM

This jig should do the job.
http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/pl...ails/5/61/1641

Joe Lyddon · 11-11-2006, 01:52 PM

Here is a cool simple sander that I think I will get/make...
http://www.stockroomsupply.com/V_Drum_Sander.php

I have other sanding topics on my website...
(toward the bottom)
http://woodworkstuff.net/woodidxjigs.html

**bobj3** · 11-13-2006, 11:16 AM

Thanks Joe

That's a neat setup

I was going to build the floor model (( http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/r...cles_528.shtml ))
But I think I will get the 18" kit and the sanding Mob(s).
Neat stuff...

I now use the link belts on most of my equipment and they are great.

http://www.onlinewoodshow.com/show/c...t=1&prod=D1810

http://www.onlinewoodshow.com/show/c...t=3&prod=SM600

http://www.stockroomsupply.com/

Plans Below ▼
https://www.stockroomsupply.com/Drum_Sander_Plans.php

Bj

Joe Lyddon · 11-13-2006, 01:03 PM

Hi Bob,

I was thinking of the 18" drum also... primarily because I could get small box pieces, etc. over the slot & sand them where the larger slots would make it more difficult if even possible. (I even got to thinking about a jig placed over the drum for very small pieces!

)

At one time, I was thinking of scrounging the parts, pillow blocks, shaft, pulleys, etc. & even making the drum out of individual cut circles, etc. ... BUT, recently, I figured it wasn't really worth the effort as well as taking a huge chance that it wouldn't work good (as good as with their parts). So, I've decided to just get The Works kit for the 18" unit.
That way, most of the critical stuff will be done for me!!

It has been a long time since seeing the Mop sanders... thank you for bringing those to my attention!! They're cool too!! Although I couldn't find the Dremel sized goodies on their site... guess I'll have to call them... The 6" combo of 120 / 220 looks good to me.

They used to have another video, that I thought was better than this one... showed the ease of changing drum grits, etc. and even setting up more than one grit on the same drum!! This is COOL stuff!!

Caution... the prices, shown at the bottom of the videos, are Canadian... US$ are LESS!! I'm glad I noticed that!! (cause I thought it was getting a little Pricey... More reasonable with the US$ price!)

Keep us up to date on your progress... OK? I will do the same.

**bobj3** · 11-13-2006, 01:29 PM

Hi Joe
Will do, the 18" kit and the 6" mob is on the way

-----------
Thanks for shopping with Stockroom Supply. We'd like to confirm your order that was received on November 13, 2006

Your total purchase came to $232.90

Your order will be shipped to the following address as soon as possible.

Again, Bob , thanks for choosing Stockroom Supply. We look forward to serving you again in the future!

Sincerely
The Stockroom Supply Team

North America's Abrasive Specialists!
------------
-----------------------------------------------
Need To Get In Touch With Us About Your Order?
-----------------------------------------------
Via email at: info@stockroomsupply.com
(please be sure to give us your first and last name)
- Via phone at: 1-877-287-5017 8AM to 4PM EST
Monday through Friday

Bj

**bobj3** · 11-22-2006, 10:47 PM

Hi Joe

Well I got the kit and the new motor

,it's 90% done and so far it's great I did rework some of it (most of it

motor mount,motor placement,roller placement,roller mounting,vac.system,power switch,etc.) so I can raise it and lower it with hand crank up font and that has been a real challenge with engineering nightmare using a scisser mechanism and rollers

It's works better than my planer and it is 18" wide on top of that

.
I also reworked the cabinet so it's a floor type now.

By the way here's a link to the small mob sanders

Mini Mops
http://www.stockroomsupply.com/The_Mini_Mop.php

http://www.stockroomsupply.com/Products.php

Bj

Joe Lyddon · 11-23-2006, 01:34 PM

Hi Bob,
Sounds good!! I had found the small mop sanders... thank you...

Glad to hear it's better than a planer!! I was hoping for that... except, you would have a harder time getting multiple pieces the same thickness... you would have to measure after each pass as it gets closer... yes?

I was going to experiment setting the Finest grit a little lower than they say to see if it would be easier to control the thickness, etc. Set the Finest and the others follow... right?

What is the smallest piece you can sand over the top? (without a jig)

Looking forward to seeing pictures of it...

I'm close to ordering... trying to decide on everything I want so I get FREE Shipping this time rather than building to another $100 order!

How do you like your Mop sander? They sound real cool too... I'm leaning toward 6" and 1" or 1.5" mops... and of course you must get more grits, etc. right?!

It snow-balls into more than you expected after you get the basics decided upon... more fun!

Thanks for the report... looking forward to the next one...

Have a nice Thanksgiving!

**bobj3** · 11-23-2006, 04:37 PM

HI Joe

"you would have to measure after each pass as it gets closer" YES,that would be true because there is not a go or no go gage so to speak like a planer...

"What is the smallest piece you can sand over the top" so far I have use 1/4" thick and 1" wide and about 12" long, you can also use it like a jointer, put sock on it's side and just push it over the drum and it comes out great just like a jointer.

"How do you like your Mop sander" I got the 6" kit and they give you all you need plus some to make a mop for the drill press , but I have not made the mob for the drill press yet still need to find a 1/2" x 4" bolt to use for it, the standard one works great for raised panels and moding plus other jobs.

I killed the scisser mechanism ,about 6:30 AM today and I'm going back to the hinge today sometime, just to much work and it only needs to move up and down about 1/4" max both ways.
I Forgot the base rule make it simple...

and it took me 2 days to make and weld up the scisser frame , just a bit over kill on that one

but I can use it for a bike jack

.

Have a nice Thanksgiving also JOE

Bj

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Gilbear Registered User Supreme Forum King Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,663 View Gilbear's Gallery	Report This Post! Ric, didn't hear what? Thanks to all of you - yeah those were more what I had in mind - and basic is just my style! Lots of stuff to think about now! Thanks again.
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,270 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Gilbear "BJ, how fast was your buddy's sander able to take down stock?" Quick when he use 36grit. paper and real nice with the 150 grit. paper. He got the sand paper rolls from http://www.Grizzly.com. (H4776 and G2789 and the H4424 ) He use cardboard tubes to make it quick and easy switch out. from Home Depot "carpet cardboard paper tubes" he also tried PVC pipe but that's didn't work to well, to slick on the inside. Bj
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11-05-2006, 04:58 AM	#13
Mike Senior Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, Michigan USA Posts: 3,372 View Mike's Gallery	Report This Post! This jig should do the job. http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/pl...ails/5/61/1641 __________________ Mike Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you. Last edited by Mike; 11-05-2006 at 05:02 AM.
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Joe Lyddon Banned Supreme Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alta Loma, CA USA Posts: 2,168 View Joe Lyddon's Gallery	Report This Post! Here is a cool simple sander that I think I will get/make... http://www.stockroomsupply.com/V_Drum_Sander.php I have other sanding topics on my website... (toward the bottom) http://woodworkstuff.net/woodidxjigs.html
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11-13-2006, 11:16 AM	#15
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,270 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Thanks Joe That's a neat setup I was going to build the floor model (( http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/r...cles_528.shtml )) But I think I will get the 18" kit and the sanding Mob(s). Neat stuff... I now use the link belts on most of my equipment and they are great. http://www.onlinewoodshow.com/show/c...t=1&prod=D1810 http://www.onlinewoodshow.com/show/c...t=3&prod=SM600 http://www.stockroomsupply.com/ Plans Below ▼ https://www.stockroomsupply.com/Drum_Sander_Plans.php Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 11-13-2006 at 12:36 PM.
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11-13-2006, 01:03 PM	#16
Joe Lyddon Banned Supreme Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alta Loma, CA USA Posts: 2,168 View Joe Lyddon's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Bob, I was thinking of the 18" drum also... primarily because I could get small box pieces, etc. over the slot & sand them where the larger slots would make it more difficult if even possible. (I even got to thinking about a jig placed over the drum for very small pieces! ) At one time, I was thinking of scrounging the parts, pillow blocks, shaft, pulleys, etc. & even making the drum out of individual cut circles, etc. ... BUT, recently, I figured it wasn't really worth the effort as well as taking a huge chance that it wouldn't work good (as good as with their parts). So, I've decided to just get The Works kit for the 18" unit. That way, most of the critical stuff will be done for me!! It has been a long time since seeing the Mop sanders... thank you for bringing those to my attention!! They're cool too!! Although I couldn't find the Dremel sized goodies on their site... guess I'll have to call them... The 6" combo of 120 / 220 looks good to me. They used to have another video, that I thought was better than this one... showed the ease of changing drum grits, etc. and even setting up more than one grit on the same drum!! This is COOL stuff!! Caution... the prices, shown at the bottom of the videos, are Canadian... US$ are LESS!! I'm glad I noticed that!! (cause I thought it was getting a little Pricey... More reasonable with the US$ price!) Keep us up to date on your progress... OK? I will do the same.
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11-13-2006, 01:29 PM	#17
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,270 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Joe Will do, the 18" kit and the 6" mob is on the way ----------- Thanks for shopping with Stockroom Supply. We'd like to confirm your order that was received on November 13, 2006 Your total purchase came to $232.90 Your order will be shipped to the following address as soon as possible. Again, Bob , thanks for choosing Stockroom Supply. We look forward to serving you again in the future! Sincerely The Stockroom Supply Team North America's Abrasive Specialists! ------------ ----------------------------------------------- Need To Get In Touch With Us About Your Order? ----------------------------------------------- Via email at: info@stockroomsupply.com (please be sure to give us your first and last name) - Via phone at: 1-877-287-5017 8AM to 4PM EST Monday through Friday Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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11-22-2006, 10:47 PM	#18
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,270 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Joe Well I got the kit and the new motor ,it's 90% done and so far it's great I did rework some of it (most of it motor mount,motor placement,roller placement,roller mounting,vac.system,power switch,etc.) so I can raise it and lower it with hand crank up font and that has been a real challenge with engineering nightmare using a scisser mechanism and rollers It's works better than my planer and it is 18" wide on top of that . I also reworked the cabinet so it's a floor type now. By the way here's a link to the small mob sanders Mini Mops http://www.stockroomsupply.com/The_Mini_Mop.php http://www.stockroomsupply.com/Products.php Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 11-22-2006 at 10:56 PM.
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11-23-2006, 01:34 PM	#19
Joe Lyddon Banned Supreme Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alta Loma, CA USA Posts: 2,168 View Joe Lyddon's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Bob, Sounds good!! I had found the small mop sanders... thank you... Glad to hear it's better than a planer!! I was hoping for that... except, you would have a harder time getting multiple pieces the same thickness... you would have to measure after each pass as it gets closer... yes? I was going to experiment setting the Finest grit a little lower than they say to see if it would be easier to control the thickness, etc. Set the Finest and the others follow... right? What is the smallest piece you can sand over the top? (without a jig) Looking forward to seeing pictures of it... I'm close to ordering... trying to decide on everything I want so I get FREE Shipping this time rather than building to another $100 order! How do you like your Mop sander? They sound real cool too... I'm leaning toward 6" and 1" or 1.5" mops... and of course you must get more grits, etc. right?! It snow-balls into more than you expected after you get the basics decided upon... more fun! Thanks for the report... looking forward to the next one... Have a nice Thanksgiving!
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11-23-2006, 04:37 PM	#20
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,270 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! HI Joe "you would have to measure after each pass as it gets closer" YES,that would be true because there is not a go or no go gage so to speak like a planer... "What is the smallest piece you can sand over the top" so far I have use 1/4" thick and 1" wide and about 12" long, you can also use it like a jointer, put sock on it's side and just push it over the drum and it comes out great just like a jointer. "How do you like your Mop sander" I got the 6" kit and they give you all you need plus some to make a mop for the drill press , but I have not made the mob for the drill press yet still need to find a 1/2" x 4" bolt to use for it, the standard one works great for raised panels and moding plus other jobs. I killed the scisser mechanism ,about 6:30 AM today and I'm going back to the hinge today sometime, just to much work and it only needs to move up and down about 1/4" max both ways. I Forgot the base rule make it simple... and it took me 2 days to make and weld up the scisser frame , just a bit over kill on that one but I can use it for a bike jack . Have a nice Thanksgiving also JOE Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 11-24-2006 at 08:03 AM.
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