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harrysin

Greg, how can ANY woodworker now have an excuse to not make a set of skis?
You sure are a lateral thinker, you did a great job of designing and making them, I'm sure Tom will feel that he is at last making progress, I know that he was becoming despondent in his quest for some acceptance of his methods.

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Harry

AxlMyk

Here's the router sled I made.. 18" wide for smaller projects..

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harrysin

Mike, you have shown that many problems can have multiple answers. That is a very ingenious variation on the skis. It is for this very reason that I the suggested that it might be a good idea if Tom and I posted a photograph of a finished project and asked for ideas on how viewers would go about it BEFORE giving OUR method, I'm sure that we would be pleasantly surprised at the range of ideas. What are you're personal views Mike?

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Drugstore Cowboy

Hmm --- maybe --
Because they don't want to?
Because they don't see any benefit to it for the specific kinds of work they do?
Because they are as happy and excited with their way of doing things as anybody else may be with theirs?

Hey -- you asked

NOT criticising the 'ski's at all ---
I think they are a GREAT idea -- for some projects and some people.
I thought they were a great idea back in 1979 when I read about them in a Black and Decker how-to book I bought when I got my first router.
(they used wood rails and an edge guide - but the concept and the result was pretty much the same).

But I don't buy that anyone who doesn't follow this procedure - or any other specific pet procedure is - by definition -- ill informed or whatever --

Sorry --

harrysin

"But I don't buy that anyone who doesn't follow this procedure - or any other specific pet procedure is - by definition -- ill informed or whatever --"

Cowboy, no one is being asked to FOLLOW Tom's methods, he is only trying to TEMPT people to TRY his methods. Tom has never claimed to have INVENTED ski routing, he only claims to have DEVELOPED it in combination with template guides so that woodworkers have these ADDITIONAL skills to call upon. Just look at the medical profession, complex surgery is now being performed by remote controlled equipment and I'm led to believe that there is less chance of what could be fatal errors. These surgeons were prepared to TRY these new methods and I'm sure that they dont do all surgery this way. What more can I say????????????????????????????????????????

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Drugstore Cowboy

To that terminology - I would say a hearty AMEN --

And to your surgery analogy - I would add this one from an old preacher friend of mine --
Upon hearing some of his more -- 'traditional' -- brethren brag about their '40 years experience in the ministry' --
He would smile and say
-- no -- you have had ONE year's experience - 40 times.

No - I didn't think Tom was making any false claims --
My point was actually to SUPPORT what he was saying
by pointing out others who have said similar things.

I wasn't at all questioning the value of his method - or the need to be exposed to a variety of methods.
Just reacting -- possibly over-reacting -- to some of the rhetoric that has been used in several different posts - far different from your phrasing here.

What more can you say --
I think you made the point VERY well --
I just wish it was always presented in that tone -- :-)

I'm new here -- I don't always recognize when some of you are intentionally overstating your case for effect. I'll try not to take things so literally.

harrysin

Cowboy, I'm an amateur diplomat, Tom is a skilled routologist, I'm hoping that in time we shall meet each other half way!

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challagan

Mike, nice job on the ski set up. I will have to consider that as well. Thanks for posting it.

Corey

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