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Joe Lyddon · 09-21-2006, 11:22 AM

FWW #186, October 2006 has an article with this headline.

Here they are: (1/2" shank unless different)

1/4" straight bit (1/4" shank)
1/2" straight bit
3/8" spiral-fluted up cutting straight bit (solid carbide)
Rabbeting bit with four bearings
1/2" dovetail bit, 10 degree
1/4" roundover bit
3/8" radius cove bit
45 chamfer bit, 1 1/4" dia.)
Three-wing slot cutter, 1/4" thick
1/2" flush trimming bit, 1 1/2" long cut

I would like to eventually get all of them... I have to be frugal.
I have some cheap stuff already.
So far, I am NOT a heavy user... but I can see that changing...
I am an occasional user... but I can see that changing a little...
OK, picture me as a Moderate user...

I don't want to get cheap junk...
I don't want to pay a huge premium for the best.
I want to get the best for the money.

How would you go about getting them and from whom?
Look for Sales and take your time on a "as needed" basis?
What Brand(s)... (tough one)?

Thanks for the help...

**bobj3** · 09-21-2006, 11:42 AM

HI Joe

This is what I would recommend,then buy one at a time as you need them.

Spiral Upcut/Downcut Starter Sets
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...olid_sets.html

Spiral Flush Trim Bit
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...ushtrim_anchor

Round Over Bit, #8655 1/2" at $17.00
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../bt_rndvr.html

The bits and set of Brass Bars From Oak-Park or MLCS and your set to put your router to work.

And a real plus is the free shipping and if you play it right you can get a 10% off the total (From: MLCS) by putting in a code like C09,C10,etc..

----------------

flute flat bottom cutters.
Top quality micrograin solid carbide.
Will cut faster, smoother and stays sharper longer.
Produces a very clean, fast and accurate cut with minimal chatter.
Upcut spiral helps remove material. Ideal for making mortise and tenon joints.
Downcut spirals help hold the material in place while using handheld routers.
Will plunge cut and plane edges.
Eliminates chipping at the top of the cut. Ideal for soft & hard woods, plywoods & composites.

Bj

Joe Lyddon · 09-21-2006, 12:29 PM

Bob,

That helps a lot!! Thank you!!

Question...
How do I "... and if you play it right"??
Where/How do I get the Promo. Codes?

**bobj3** · 09-21-2006, 12:33 PM

Hi Joe
Once you place a order with MLCS they will put in the box a blue slip that has the code on it..
"return buyer -10% off) so to say buy one small item to get the -10% off,

They also ship quick,I get the items I buy it 4 days or less via.UPS or USPS plus a tracking number all the time in my e-mail box.

***** I SHOULD NOTE: it takes a $50.oo min. buy to get the 10% OFF...

Bj

Like the items below ▼

Brass Router Height Set-Up Kit

***NOTE*** The 1/16" size

in the one set,not the norm.

BRASS MULTI SIZE SET-UP KIT
Perfect for router, shaper and table saw set-up. 2-3/8" bars allow accurate depth adjustments in 6 sizes (1/16", 1/8", 3/16", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2").
Soft metal brass bars won't splinter or chip your router bit or saw blade if they accidentally hit the cutters.
Conveniently attached to key chain for quick accessibility.

#9718 list $20.00..........................ONLY $17.95

SQUARE BAR KIT
Allows depth adjustments in five sizes (1/8", 3/16", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2"). Includes five, 4" long square bars.
#9717 Square Bar Kit...................ONLY $22.95

JUST one more NOTE *** I got one of the #9717 sets and cut them in half, now I have two sets for the price of one..

and I now have a set for both of my router tables or my table saw....

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../routacc1.html

**Mike** · 09-21-2006, 01:29 PM

Joe, many members have agreed with BJ on the MLCS bits. I have yet to order any but will when a project calls for a bit I don't have. Most of the bits I have are from Woodcraft or Rockler. This is because Woodcraft runs sales on the 20 most popular bits for $5 each, some times less. I have these bits in both 1/4" and 1/2" shank sizes so I can use them in all my routers. I watch the sale flyers and buy discounted Whiteside or specialty bits. When Woodcraft moved to their new location near me I bought a Whiteside beaded rail & style set for 40% off. A couple months ago Woodcraft started offering CMT bits in addition to Whiteside at a discount in their monthly flyers. So far they have all been bits that I have, but I do keep watch for bits I don't have. Whiteside is American made top quality. CMT from Italy and Amana from Israel are other top quality brands. Bosch offers a wide selection of high quality bits. I would be interested in hearing from members who have used PC, Vermont American, Skil, Viper and any other bits as to how well they perform.

**Bob** · 09-21-2006, 06:45 PM

I just received this in my email from Woodcraft.......

Save 25% on all CMT Router Bits During the month of September!

In stock bits only - no special orders.

**bobj3** · 09-21-2006, 07:20 PM

Hi Bob

Looks like CMT maybe getting out of the router bits, sommerfeldtools has many,many router bits at almost 50% off...I'm not sure but it sure looks funny that both companys are running hot discount on CMT great bits

...
Marc Sommerfeld the owner said he was going to put out his own bits the end of Oct.06 or try too.
Hummmm looks like it maybe a great time to stock up on router bits.

http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/closeouts.asp

Bj

**Bob** · 09-21-2006, 07:24 PM

Bob,

You may be onto something reaqding between the lines of this statement "In stock bits only - no special orders".

Never the less... good time to stock up at some good prices for us consumers

mpphoto · 09-21-2006, 08:08 PM

I started out with a set of router bits from www.holbren.com
This gave me lots of bits to experiment with, play with and even ruin. Then I started adding to that set by buying Whiteside, CMT and Infinity bits. I usually look for sales or discounts and stock up when I can.

If you want to skip right to the better bits this is a great starter set at a great price:
http://www.holbren.com/product.php?p...&cat=85&page=1

Holbren gives a 10% discount to woodnet.com members (membership is free) and shipping is free.

I also grabbed some of the CMT bits mentioned above on sale at www.sommerfeldtools.com

Infinity has very good quality bits as well and the have an overstock section where some of them are discounted:
http://www.infinitytools.com

Although the Holbren branded bits are nt considered in the same league as the Whitesides and other high-ticket bits I still use them and find them to be of very good quality. For bits that I intend to use infrequently I don't intend to go with the high end stuff.

Michael

RustyW · 09-22-2006, 07:30 PM

I get excellant service and bits from MLCS. Ordered some Sat and received them Wed (free shipping).

One company that dos'nt get much mention here is Pricecutter. Unlike MLCS and Grizzley which have 2 levals of bits. Pricecutter has a sister company, Eagle America for there higher quallity bits. First time I ordered from Pricecutter they sent the wrong bit. I could have called them but e-mailed instead. Was surprised to get allmost imediate response. After a couple more e-mails turned out they were out of the one I wanted so I returned the wrong one and they sent me the Eagle America version at no additional cost in under a week. Needless to say I am very happy with there service and have ordered again. But when only getting a few bits MLCS is usually a better deal because of the free shipping.

Rusty

09-21-2006, 11:22 AM	#1
Joe Lyddon Banned Supreme Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alta Loma, CA USA Posts: 2,168 View Joe Lyddon's Gallery	Report This Post! 10 Essential Router Bits FWW #186, October 2006 has an article with this headline. Here they are: (1/2" shank unless different) 1/4" straight bit (1/4" shank) 1/2" straight bit 3/8" spiral-fluted up cutting straight bit (solid carbide) Rabbeting bit with four bearings 1/2" dovetail bit, 10 degree 1/4" roundover bit 3/8" radius cove bit 45 chamfer bit, 1 1/4" dia.) Three-wing slot cutter, 1/4" thick 1/2" flush trimming bit, 1 1/2" long cut I would like to eventually get all of them... I have to be frugal. I have some cheap stuff already. So far, I am NOT a heavy user... but I can see that changing... I am an occasional user... but I can see that changing a little... OK, picture me as a Moderate user... I don't want to get cheap junk... I don't want to pay a huge premium for the best. I want to get the best for the money. How would you go about getting them and from whom? Look for Sales and take your time on a "as needed" basis? What Brand(s)... (tough one)? Thanks for the help...
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09-21-2006, 11:42 AM	#2
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,272 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! HI Joe This is what I would recommend,then buy one at a time as you need them. Spiral Upcut/Downcut Starter Sets http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...olid_sets.html Spiral Flush Trim Bit http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...ushtrim_anchor Round Over Bit, #8655 1/2" at $17.00 http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../bt_rndvr.html The bits and set of Brass Bars From Oak-Park or MLCS and your set to put your router to work. And a real plus is the free shipping and if you play it right you can get a 10% off the total (From: MLCS) by putting in a code like C09,C10,etc.. ---------------- flute flat bottom cutters. Top quality micrograin solid carbide. Will cut faster, smoother and stays sharper longer. Produces a very clean, fast and accurate cut with minimal chatter. Upcut spiral helps remove material. Ideal for making mortise and tenon joints. Downcut spirals help hold the material in place while using handheld routers. Will plunge cut and plane edges. Eliminates chipping at the top of the cut. Ideal for soft & hard woods, plywoods & composites. Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 09-21-2006 at 12:22 PM.
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09-21-2006, 12:29 PM	#3
Joe Lyddon Banned Supreme Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alta Loma, CA USA Posts: 2,168 View Joe Lyddon's Gallery	Report This Post! Bob, That helps a lot!! Thank you!! Question... How do I "... and if you play it right"?? Where/How do I get the Promo. Codes?
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09-21-2006, 12:33 PM	#4
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,272 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Joe Once you place a order with MLCS they will put in the box a blue slip that has the code on it.. "return buyer -10% off) so to say buy one small item to get the -10% off, They also ship quick,I get the items I buy it 4 days or less via.UPS or USPS plus a tracking number all the time in my e-mail box. *** I SHOULD NOTE: it takes a $50.oo min. buy to get the 10% OFF... Bj Like the items below ▼ Brass Router Height Set-Up Kit NOTE The 1/16" size in the one set,not the norm. BRASS MULTI SIZE SET-UP KIT Perfect for router, shaper and table saw set-up. 2-3/8" bars allow accurate depth adjustments in 6 sizes (1/16", 1/8", 3/16", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2"). Soft metal brass bars won't splinter or chip your router bit or saw blade if they accidentally hit the cutters. Conveniently attached to key chain for quick accessibility. #9718 list $20.00..........................ONLY $17.95 SQUARE BAR KIT Allows depth adjustments in five sizes (1/8", 3/16", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2"). Includes five, 4" long square bars. #9717 Square Bar Kit...................ONLY $22.95 JUST one more NOTE * I got one of the #9717 sets and cut them in half, now I have two sets for the price of one.. and I now have a set for both of my router tables or my table saw.... http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../routacc1.html __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 09-21-2006 at 02:20 PM.
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09-21-2006, 01:29 PM	#5
Mike Senior Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, Michigan USA Posts: 3,372 View Mike's Gallery	Report This Post! Joe, many members have agreed with BJ on the MLCS bits. I have yet to order any but will when a project calls for a bit I don't have. Most of the bits I have are from Woodcraft or Rockler. This is because Woodcraft runs sales on the 20 most popular bits for $5 each, some times less. I have these bits in both 1/4" and 1/2" shank sizes so I can use them in all my routers. I watch the sale flyers and buy discounted Whiteside or specialty bits. When Woodcraft moved to their new location near me I bought a Whiteside beaded rail & style set for 40% off. A couple months ago Woodcraft started offering CMT bits in addition to Whiteside at a discount in their monthly flyers. So far they have all been bits that I have, but I do keep watch for bits I don't have. Whiteside is American made top quality. CMT from Italy and Amana from Israel are other top quality brands. Bosch offers a wide selection of high quality bits. I would be interested in hearing from members who have used PC, Vermont American, Skil, Viper and any other bits as to how well they perform. __________________ Mike Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you.
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09-21-2006, 06:45 PM	#6
Bob Forum Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 2,539 View Bob's Gallery	Report This Post! I just received this in my email from Woodcraft....... Save 25% on all CMT Router Bits During the month of September! In stock bits only - no special orders. __________________ Cheers, Bob
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09-21-2006, 07:20 PM	#7
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,272 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Bob Looks like CMT maybe getting out of the router bits, sommerfeldtools has many,many router bits at almost 50% off...I'm not sure but it sure looks funny that both companys are running hot discount on CMT great bits ... Marc Sommerfeld the owner said he was going to put out his own bits the end of Oct.06 or try too. Hummmm looks like it maybe a great time to stock up on router bits. http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/closeouts.asp Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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09-21-2006, 07:24 PM	#8
Bob Forum Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 2,539 View Bob's Gallery	Report This Post! Bob, You may be onto something reaqding between the lines of this statement "In stock bits only - no special orders". Never the less... good time to stock up at some good prices for us consumers __________________ Cheers, Bob
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09-21-2006, 08:08 PM	#9
mpphoto Registered User Forum Fanatic Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 133 View mpphoto's Gallery	Report This Post! I started out with a set of router bits from www.holbren.com This gave me lots of bits to experiment with, play with and even ruin. Then I started adding to that set by buying Whiteside, CMT and Infinity bits. I usually look for sales or discounts and stock up when I can. If you want to skip right to the better bits this is a great starter set at a great price: http://www.holbren.com/product.php?p...&cat=85&page=1 Holbren gives a 10% discount to woodnet.com members (membership is free) and shipping is free. I also grabbed some of the CMT bits mentioned above on sale at www.sommerfeldtools.com Infinity has very good quality bits as well and the have an overstock section where some of them are discounted: http://www.infinitytools.com Although the Holbren branded bits are nt considered in the same league as the Whitesides and other high-ticket bits I still use them and find them to be of very good quality. For bits that I intend to use infrequently I don't intend to go with the high end stuff. Michael
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09-22-2006, 07:30 PM	#10
RustyW Registered User Forum Geek Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oroville CA, USA First Name: Rusty Posts: 315 View RustyW's Gallery	Report This Post! I get excellant service and bits from MLCS. Ordered some Sat and received them Wed (free shipping). One company that dos'nt get much mention here is Pricecutter. Unlike MLCS and Grizzley which have 2 levals of bits. Pricecutter has a sister company, Eagle America for there higher quallity bits. First time I ordered from Pricecutter they sent the wrong bit. I could have called them but e-mailed instead. Was surprised to get allmost imediate response. After a couple more e-mails turned out they were out of the one I wanted so I returned the wrong one and they sent me the Eagle America version at no additional cost in under a week. Needless to say I am very happy with there service and have ordered again. But when only getting a few bits MLCS is usually a better deal because of the free shipping. Rusty
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