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**bobj3** · 10-01-2006, 12:34 AM

ButterFly Bits

How to use and make butterfly splines on your the router table.
Note** make the spline 1 1/2" to 2" tall, then cut off the scap to get the
1 3/16" tall spline,you need the sq.edge at the top of the spline to have something to hold on to when you make it and to ride against the fence.

I should NOTE****
You can use a 1/2" standard 14deg. dovetail bit but the setup is a hard one and the splines will snap because the center point of the spline is only 3/8" wide.
You can also use the ButteryFly/Dovetail bits on picture frames (on a 45deg. setup) but you will need to make a jig like the one Bob & Rick used .
That's to say a Sandwich type jig, 2 parts cut on 45deg. with the picture frame in the center, then with a clmp to hold them as one and then pass it over the dovetail bit.

http://www.pricecutter.com/product.a...cd2=1159677803

Bj

Router is still my name · 10-01-2006, 02:42 PM

Bj, Shouldn’t the Diameter /width of the spline = the dovetail bit Diameter/width?
I just got to find me few of those none feather boards.

**bobj3** · 10-01-2006, 04:12 PM

Hi Router

You lost me ?
They are both 1", the spline and the dovetail bit. (in width at the big ends)
"feather boards" = easy to make with a bit of hardwood.

Bj

Router is still my name · 10-01-2006, 04:24 PM

Hi Bj,

Quote:

They are both 1", the spline and the dovetail bit. (in width at the big ends)

That's what I was getting at, couldn't tell from the pic if they were the same
width at the big ends.

Quote:

"feather boards" = easy to make with a bit of hardwood.

I guess I could try it with jigsaw. or cut the pattern and then use a router.
I'm also thinking about wheel type none feather boards, what you think?

**bobj3** · 10-01-2006, 05:09 PM

Hi Router
I have tried many,many feather boards and the one in the snapshots (Oak-Park type) work for so many tools in my shop,they are great because you can load them up so to speak.
From 1/2" to 3" of load presser with out snaping the stock,great tools for the shop.
I also use them for bench dogs,short ones about 2" to 3" long.

Jig saw one out and use it for a pat. and then set the flush trim in the router and made two or 3 .
Need to watch the grain,rib out, uphill thing.

Bj

LMACFTE · 10-06-2008, 08:32 AM

I am looking for information on joining mitered joints (like a picture frame) with the combination of a butterfly spline cut stock and dovetail. I want to make the frame of one color wood in the butterfly out of another color so that there is an inlay effect as you look at the frame. But my problem is keeping the butterfly straight across the 45-deg joint. Also unsure if I should be trying to do this on my table or holding the router and using a jig of some sort.

**bobj3** · 10-06-2008, 10:28 AM

Hi LMACFTE

I think you are talking about the one below but I'm not real sure if that's what you want to do..

You can order e-plans from Oak-Park

405- Periscope:
Gifts mean more when they're homemade! This periscope is sure to be a hit-- at your loved ones next birthday. On this episode of the Router Workshop, the Rosendahl's show you how to make the required box joints, angled mirror blocks and how to make decorative inlays for a toy that will last for many, many years. A periscope for kids of all ages!

http://www.routerworkshop.com/S400.html
=====

You also see the one below on your computer from:
http://www.thewoodworkingchannel.com/

Bob will show you how to make the frame for the mirror
using bow ties in the mitered joints..

http://www.routerworkshop.com/S600.html

601-604 Four Part - Jewelry and Lingerie Cabinet:

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Originally Posted by LMACFTE

I am looking for information on joining mitered joints (like a picture frame) with the combination of a butterfly spline cut stock and dovetail. I want to make the frame of one color wood in the butterfly out of another color so that there is an inlay effect as you look at the frame. But my problem is keeping the butterfly straight across the 45-deg joint. Also unsure if I should be trying to do this on my table or holding the router and using a jig of some sort.

Hamlin · 10-09-2008, 09:00 PM

Hi Bob,

If I'm seeing things correctly. If one rips the spline in half that would make a great drawer dt slide. Of course it probably wouldn't be prudent to do, with all the different type of drawer slides on the market. Just a thought though.

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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,271 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! ButterFly Bits ButterFly Bits How to use and make butterfly splines on your the router table. Note make the spline 1 1/2" to 2" tall, then cut off the scap to get the 1 3/16" tall spline,you need the sq.edge at the top of the spline to have something to hold on to when you make it and to ride against the fence. I should NOTE** You can use a 1/2" standard 14deg. dovetail bit but the setup is a hard one and the splines will snap because the center point of the spline is only 3/8" wide. You can also use the ButteryFly/Dovetail bits on picture frames (on a 45deg. setup) but you will need to make a jig like the one Bob & Rick used . That's to say a Sandwich type jig, 2 parts cut on 45deg. with the picture frame in the center, then with a clmp to hold them as one and then pass it over the dovetail bit. http://www.pricecutter.com/product.a...cd2=1159677803 Bj Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 10-01-2006 at 10:59 PM.
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Router is still my name Registered User Forum King Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 533 View Router is still my name's Gallery	Report This Post! Bj, Shouldn’t the Diameter /width of the spline = the dovetail bit Diameter/width? I just got to find me few of those none feather boards.
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,271 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Router You lost me ? They are both 1", the spline and the dovetail bit. (in width at the big ends) "feather boards" = easy to make with a bit of hardwood. Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,271 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Router I have tried many,many feather boards and the one in the snapshots (Oak-Park type) work for so many tools in my shop,they are great because you can load them up so to speak. From 1/2" to 3" of load presser with out snaping the stock,great tools for the shop. I also use them for bench dogs,short ones about 2" to 3" long. Jig saw one out and use it for a pat. and then set the flush trim in the router and made two or 3 . Need to watch the grain,rib out, uphill thing. Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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LMACFTE Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1 View LMACFTE's Gallery	Report This Post! I am looking for information on joining mitered joints (like a picture frame) with the combination of a butterfly spline cut stock and dovetail. I want to make the frame of one color wood in the butterfly out of another color so that there is an inlay effect as you look at the frame. But my problem is keeping the butterfly straight across the 45-deg joint. Also unsure if I should be trying to do this on my table or holding the router and using a jig of some sort.
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Hamlin Registered User Supreme Forum King Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Baldwin City, KS First Name: Ken Posts: 1,574 View Hamlin's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Bob, If I'm seeing things correctly. If one rips the spline in half that would make a great drawer dt slide. Of course it probably wouldn't be prudent to do, with all the different type of drawer slides on the market. Just a thought though. __________________ Ken "A VETERAN" "Whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life". That is HONOR, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -Author Unknown
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