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HI Woodnut65

That's a GREAT point to make, most Shapers Don't use bearing some use rub collars for some jobs but the fence is the key with them and they can do the job with just a 3/4 HP motor at Spindle Speed: 8,900 RPM.

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I've no experience with rail and stile bits so can only go by what my friend told me. He has the complete Oakpark setup... table, fence, bit, etc. According to him, there is no setup for it as far as depth, install the bit, install the fence into the locating holes, tighten it down and make doors. The Freud set that Mike mentioned was used with a homemade fence, on the Oakpark table, and makes great doors. I suggested that he try the bit with his fence and see what happens. Not sure if he's had the time to do that or not.

The thing that he is really confused by is the fact that when he first got it, it worked great. He showed me several (10-12?) that he made for storage cabinets in his garage when he first got it and was practicing. They all fit together perfectly. Then, with no setup changes, it started having this gap.

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The bit i have I belive i got it from Price Cutter ? Their are other Mfd. out their It has a bearing in the center So You use a streight edge and set the fence's up so that the bearing and fence are all toutching Once you do that You will be ready to cut This is the max cut you can get The bearing wont let you go and deeper I belive the wood is 3/4" also

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Hamlin

If you have the Oak Park raised panel system, then you needn't worry about depth setting. It's all done as you set in the fence for the cutter. If you don't have the system, then a regular fence will do.

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Mike

Ken, The owner of the bit HAS the Oak Park system and was not getting good results. The bit we are discussing is from Oak Park. Something is amiss and we have yet to figure out what. The reason I started this thread was to promote proper set ups for all projects.

The bit does have a height adjustment, it is set so the lowest cutter is 1/8" above the table. If this is not done all the geometry would be off. I picked up this information today from Rick.

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Hamlin

Mike, check the compression pins that are in the fence, see if they've moved or the holes in the plates are slightly over round. If either case, that will not allow for proper depth of cut.

"The bit does have a height adjustment, it is set so the lowest cutter is 1/8" above the table. If this is not done all the geometry would be off. I picked up this information today from Rick."
Are we still talking about the depth of cut or the height or am I simply misunderstanding?

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Mike

Ken, I have never seen the table in question, it is in Canada. Brian mentioned this to me and I tried to figure out what was wrong.

When setting up for your first cut the bit is adjusted so the lowest cutter is 1/8" above the table surface.(I believe this is for the rails) The fence should be automaticly located by the pins. If these steps are followed everything should be correct.

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Hamlin

I've done some rereading here.... so I apologize if I came across wrong earlier.
Mike, I totally agree with proper setup procedures. (Thumbs up here)
Brian, I wonder if your friend is making sure things are clamped down securely and, am also wondering if perhaps chip buildup may be the cause? I know every once in awhile I'll catch myself trying to "hurry" up on a project, then I step back, take a breather.
I have yet to encounter any problems with my OP setup.

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