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**bobj3** · 03-19-2007, 03:22 PM

Just a easy way to put in box joints, in 1/4" to 1/2" thick stock.
You can do 9/16" to 1 1/4" thick stock by making the Blind Type Box Joint.

All you need to do is clamp up all 4 parts as one , also clamp a 3/4" MDF block on the back side of the pack,this will help support the stock and stop the rip out when you come out of the pass.
If you want to made a box with 3 1/2" sides, just flip it over and reclamp the stock and move the bit up to reline the 1st. slots then make one more pass on both ends.
NOTE*** If you FAN the bits (blades) ,it will take some of the load off the router and less work for the router bit (flat cut) to do and the cut will be a bit cleaner, I forgot to do this in the snapshots, sorry

The pictures below are 1/4" thick floor stock, I had left over from a floor job.
Once your have both ends done take it back to the table saw and resize the stock if needed , then glue the box up, then glue on a bottom and use a trim bit to clean the joints and the bottom edge.
You can also glue on the top the same way then just split the box with a slot cutter bit. (3/32 slot cutter)

You will also see below a easy to make Frame Clamps for picture frames or boxes, we all can buy frames clamps but you can make your own with some 1/4-20 threaded rod,wing nuts,and some blocks of hardwood, you can make them with 6ft.rod or longer if you needed . (up to 12ft long)
The rods I keep on hand are, 12",24",36,48",72" long some get cut down if I need them for other projects

. LOL.

Bit(s) from ▼
ABout 1/3 of the going price. (Ebay)
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-PC-1-2-SH-5-Sl...QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../bt_windo.html

Bj

curiousgeorge · 03-19-2007, 03:51 PM

Thanks Bj.
Those are neat clamps. I need to make some of those and the box joint bit is on my want list.

seawolf21 · 03-19-2007, 04:33 PM

Bob that's sure a mean looking box joint bit. My router will only take 1/4 bit shanks so I'm out of luck. I see you made the frame jig and you've improved on it. Good job.

Gary

**bobj3** · 03-19-2007, 05:35 PM

Thanks
George and Gary

The clamps do come in handy and are easy ones to make

.

The router bit is a quick way to make small boxes and drawers, I made a Sand Paper box that has 8 draws in it,makes it easy to find the sand paper and was a fun project to make, it started off with the wife, she was going to get rid of some In and Out boxes that sit on the office desk,the old wood type

.
I made a quick frame for the ones she had and it worked out so well I made one more set for my son, now I use the bit all the time for small boxes..

Bj

**challagan** · 03-19-2007, 07:09 PM

Bob, that is a wicked looking bit! It looks like you got it to work great. I love your box clamp! Where do they sell that threaded rod... can you get it at the borgs?

Corey

**bobj3** · 03-19-2007, 07:40 PM

Hi Corey

borgs ???? not sure what that is

Threaded rod, from HD,Lowes,Ace Hardware, But I like to buy it a one of the many fastners outlets in Denver, A & I Bolt,Fastners Inc.,Cent. Fastners, etc. I'm a cheap SOB and I can buy it at almost the same price as HD,etc. can buy it at, 1/4-20 x 6ft at 1.08ea. a stick and the T-nuts at $3.60per.100.
Fastners are such a small item but it can add up to many dollars over the year.
I try and buy all the fastners I need the same way, like wood screws etc.
HD and others mark them up by 600 % or more most of the time but they one sell one or two at at time but I always buy them by box of 100 or so.
Take a 6 x 1 1/4 sq.drive pocket screws , $1.20per 100 or 8.60per 1000.
So you can see you can save a great deal buy buying them right from a fastner supply house/outlet.

At one time I got most of them from a place in Chicago called Industrial Fastners Supply Inc. at 1/10 of the normal i.e. 6 x 1 1/4 pocket hole screws at $1.70per 1000 but the high cost of freight stop that.

Bj

**challagan** · 03-19-2007, 08:02 PM

Bob, Borg = Big Orange Retail Giant = Home Depot
Blue Borg = Lowes

Thanks for the info, never used the threaded rod before.. didn't know how easy they were to find or not. Looks like I can probably get them at Ace or HD,

Thanks!

Corey

**Bob** · 03-19-2007, 08:42 PM

BJ.....

That is one wicked looking bit. Sure makes the job look easier.

Thanks for the tip.

**bobj3** · 03-19-2007, 09:02 PM

Hi Bob

It will do it all in a pass or two,make the a box parts in 2 mins. or less.

If you Note the fence I use it has a hole just for the bit, it's a safe way to run stock by without falling into the black hole behind most bits on the router tables it's not a must for this type of bit but it lets the stock stay sq. to the fence when you pass the stock by the bit.
If you don't have or use the T & G slide in insert like I do you can
clamp a 2 x 4 to the back side of the pack,this will help support the stock on the pass and keep you from falling into the black hole behind the bit plus it will add mass to the pack and you always have some of the stock riding on the fence.
So to say on the fence,on the bit,off on the out feed of the fence,some part of the pack is always on the fence,plus I use push block to pass the pack by the bit, the one you see in the snapshots with the saw handle keeps my hand up and away from the bit.
Note***when you rip the stock for the box parts cut a pair that are 3/8" wider then you need, this is because you need the offset when you put them together plus the bit will put in a 1/2" deep slot so you will need to trim some on the ends off after the pass, so to say cut the box parts 1/2" longer than you need for the box.

Also if you want to make a lid for the box, make one more set and after you have it made chuck up a 1/4" bit and put a rabbit on the inside of the top edge of the parts and a rabbit on the outside of the bottom parts about 1/2 of the thickess of the stock.

Bj

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Originally Posted by Bob N

BJ.....

That is one wicked looking bit. Sure makes the job look easier.

Thanks for the tip.

**challagan** · 03-19-2007, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobj3

If you Note the fence I use it has a hole just for the bit, it's a safe way to run stock by without falling into the black hole behind most bits on the router tables it's not a must for this type of bit but it lets the stock stay sq. to the fence when you pass the stock by the bit.

Bj

Good point Bob, never thought about that.

Corey

03-19-2007, 03:22 PM	#1
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,271 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Box Joint Bit Just a easy way to put in box joints, in 1/4" to 1/2" thick stock. You can do 9/16" to 1 1/4" thick stock by making the Blind Type Box Joint. All you need to do is clamp up all 4 parts as one , also clamp a 3/4" MDF block on the back side of the pack,this will help support the stock and stop the rip out when you come out of the pass. If you want to made a box with 3 1/2" sides, just flip it over and reclamp the stock and move the bit up to reline the 1st. slots then make one more pass on both ends. NOTE*** If you FAN the bits (blades) ,it will take some of the load off the router and less work for the router bit (flat cut) to do and the cut will be a bit cleaner, I forgot to do this in the snapshots, sorry The pictures below are 1/4" thick floor stock, I had left over from a floor job. Once your have both ends done take it back to the table saw and resize the stock if needed , then glue the box up, then glue on a bottom and use a trim bit to clean the joints and the bottom edge. You can also glue on the top the same way then just split the box with a slot cutter bit. (3/32 slot cutter) You will also see below a easy to make Frame Clamps for picture frames or boxes, we all can buy frames clamps but you can make your own with some 1/4-20 threaded rod,wing nuts,and some blocks of hardwood, you can make them with 6ft.rod or longer if you needed . (up to 12ft long) The rods I keep on hand are, 12",24",36,48",72" long some get cut down if I need them for other projects . LOL. Bit(s) from ▼ ABout 1/3 of the going price. (Ebay) http://cgi.ebay.com/1-PC-1-2-SH-5-Sl...QQcmdZViewItem http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../bt_windo.html Bj Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 03-19-2007 at 04:59 PM.
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seawolf21 Registered User Forum Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Midwest,Wisconsin First Name: Gary Posts: 153 View seawolf21's Gallery	Report This Post! Bob that's sure a mean looking box joint bit. My router will only take 1/4 bit shanks so I'm out of luck. I see you made the frame jig and you've improved on it. Good job. Gary
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03-19-2007, 05:35 PM	#4
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,271 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Thanks George and Gary The clamps do come in handy and are easy ones to make . The router bit is a quick way to make small boxes and drawers, I made a Sand Paper box that has 8 draws in it,makes it easy to find the sand paper and was a fun project to make, it started off with the wife, she was going to get rid of some In and Out boxes that sit on the office desk,the old wood type . I made a quick frame for the ones she had and it worked out so well I made one more set for my son, now I use the bit all the time for small boxes.. Bj Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 03-19-2007 at 05:42 PM.
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challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,002 View challagan's Gallery	Report This Post! Bob, that is a wicked looking bit! It looks like you got it to work great. I love your box clamp! Where do they sell that threaded rod... can you get it at the borgs? Corey __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,271 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Corey borgs ???? not sure what that is Threaded rod, from HD,Lowes,Ace Hardware, But I like to buy it a one of the many fastners outlets in Denver, A & I Bolt,Fastners Inc.,Cent. Fastners, etc. I'm a cheap SOB and I can buy it at almost the same price as HD,etc. can buy it at, 1/4-20 x 6ft at 1.08ea. a stick and the T-nuts at $3.60per.100. Fastners are such a small item but it can add up to many dollars over the year. I try and buy all the fastners I need the same way, like wood screws etc. HD and others mark them up by 600 % or more most of the time but they one sell one or two at at time but I always buy them by box of 100 or so. Take a 6 x 1 1/4 sq.drive pocket screws , $1.20per 100 or 8.60per 1000. So you can see you can save a great deal buy buying them right from a fastner supply house/outlet. At one time I got most of them from a place in Chicago called Industrial Fastners Supply Inc. at 1/10 of the normal i.e. 6 x 1 1/4 pocket hole screws at $1.70per 1000 but the high cost of freight stop that. Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 03-19-2007 at 08:53 PM.
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challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,002 View challagan's Gallery	Report This Post! Bob, Borg = Big Orange Retail Giant = Home Depot Blue Borg = Lowes Thanks for the info, never used the threaded rod before.. didn't know how easy they were to find or not. Looks like I can probably get them at Ace or HD, Thanks! Corey __________________ My Carving Website: The Iowa Woodcarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ My Shop Website - Woodshop 51503 http://woodshop51503.tripod.com/
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Bob Forum Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 2,539 View Bob's Gallery	Report This Post! BJ..... That is one wicked looking bit. Sure makes the job look easier. Thanks for the tip. __________________ Cheers, Bob
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