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Old 12-01-2007, 11:49 PM   #1
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Default Removing material with an up cut spiral bit?

Keep in mind I’m a router freshman so this may seem like a stupid question (I know, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people).

I’m setting up my router table with a Bosch 1617 and Incra Ultra. I know one of the things I’m going to want to do is use a spiral up-cut bit for jointing. I plan to set up a 1/32” offset auxiliary fence just for this (next week’s project). So in the mean time I got a Whiteside ½” up-cut spiral bit on hand for this.

But here’s the stupid question. Can this bit also be used “free hand” to remove material that is not in a straight line. For example see the photo. I normally would have to resort to a small drum sander in my drill press for something like this.

If this can be done with that bit what speed should I be at? Of course I would only want to do this if it’s safe.

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Old 12-02-2007, 12:36 AM   #2
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Hi Nick

The router is a great tool but it's not a band saw/jig saw..

The bit you want to use will do the trick but you will need to make template and use a brass guide, if you free hand this type of cut you will be disappointed with the cut..

Because the bit is spining it's hard to control the cut...free hand...just make your template a bit smaller than the cut and use some double sided carpet tape or small nails to hold your stock to the template......if you do it free hand it's NOT safe ,the bit can pull it right out of your hands...

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gotcha! Brass guides are something I need to learn about ASAP! I also need to pick up the PC adapter for my 1617. For now this project I will stick to my drum sander since there is not too much material to remove.
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:20 AM   #4
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Hi Nick

You are about to get a big surprise when you get in to the guide bushing for the Bosch,,, I have a set for my Bosch and they are junk...Boschs down fall...

They do have a adapter that you need to screw in place and then you can use the PC type guides but it's a real pain to use..

Bosch RA1125 7-Piece Router Template Guide Set

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...K4FSNGYH4KGE3V

This little trick will cost you abut 60.oo bucks ....
The Bosch kit and the PC type guides...

But it looks like the router base plate you have will take on the PC type of guides that should help...on the bottom end... $$$$$...




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What about this puppy?
http://www.amazon.com/RA1100-Threade...m_cr_pr_sims_t

Is this the one that's a pain to use?
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I'm quite sure that is the adaptor that Bj means. The point about the Bosch router is that it has a bayonet fitting for the guides but the adaptor will solve this problem.
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Hi Nick

That puppy is one of the 7 in the set and it's the one you will need in order to use the PC type guides.......but I will say it's best to make your own base plate for your router when you take it out of the table to be used as a hand router.

Or just buy one that will fit your router and take on the PC type guides.
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What about this puppy?
http://www.amazon.com/RA1100-Threade...m_cr_pr_sims_t

Is this the one that's a pain to use?
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I did get this thing at woodcraft on sale when I thought I was going to use it to adapt to my hand-me-down router table:

http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4856

I would use that with PC guides?
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Hi Nick

" I would use that with PC guides? " = you got it

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95160

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I did get this thing at woodcraft on sale when I thought I was going to use it to adapt to my hand-me-down router table:

http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4856

I would use that with PC guides?
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Hi Nick

" I would use that with PC guides? " = you got it

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95160

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I love Harbor Freight. I will pick up that set the next time I go there. And I was planning on returning that base but it looks like I will keep it now.
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