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**bobj3** · 06-30-2008, 07:06 PM

Looking good Ed

I was out in the shop and you came across my mind so I pulled a bolt out of the box and made a spike just for kicks...

It took less than 2 mins. to make

at a total cost of 15 cents ea.

It can be adjusted up or down and then tighten the lock nut...

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rmaxa · 06-30-2008, 08:02 PM

Very nice job on your speaker stand project. Check out the link below for about $6.75 you can get two sets of carpet spikes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Speaker-spikes-s...dZp1638Q2em124

**harrysin** · 07-01-2008, 04:14 AM

Whilst Bj. has done a near perfect job (they need to be pointed) as of course we have come to expect of him, but the ones brought to our attention by Rolf are exactly what I described in my post and are so cheap that it wouldn't be worth the time making them.

"These are nice. I personally use them all the time in my own speaker building, stand building and other audio cabinetry. They are a great addition to sub-woofers, pedestals, stand pods, and tower speakers.

On heavy cabinets especially (and speakers that aren't heavy are poorly built) these couple the speaker or stand solidly to the floor. Supposedly the value of these is that yield tighter bass notes. I think that is baloney, but the real value is that they stop "carpet wobble" and prevent the cabinet from rocking and tipping over accidentally possibility that can suddenly and very real (not to mention very dangerous) when kids are around."

The above is what the advertiser had to say, I disagree with him regarding bass, on a timber (lumber, wood, cut & dried tree*) floor, the difference between spikes and no spikes is very noticeable to all but those with "cloth ears", I do however agree with him on the solidity of the cabinets which should also have cross bracing and be stuffed full of sound deadening material which can be purchased by the metre.

Ed. timber should never be forced into the saw or router, just guided with gentle pressure, experience will soon teach you to listen to the saw/ router, it will become obvious when too much pressure is being applied by the change in sound. You figured out correctly how to use a bearing cutter but for truing an edge when you don't have a jointer, make a split fence so that the out-feed side can be moved forward of the in-feed side.
Your photo-shoot is excellent and I for one look forward to seeing the conclusion.

* For the benefit of Bj.

**harrysin** · 07-01-2008, 04:21 AM

With all my above ramblings I forgot to congratulate you Ed. on your good taste, you appear to have the same hairstyle as me!

karateed · 07-01-2008, 08:55 AM

Hi Harry,

Hair styles come and go....this one does both of those.

Thanks everybody for the tips and kind comments. I was wondering about the pointy bits on the spikes.....now I think I've got it.

BJ thanks for the tips on building the spikes, they just need to be pointy and it would work fine.

Harry thanks for your tips, yes, I'm starting to 'get it' a bit...btw, I understood what you meant by 'timber'....does that make me an honorary Aussie?

Rolf, thanks for the info on the spikes, they may be the only new items in the project other than finish materials if he ships to Canada.

Ed......:-)

**harrysin** · 07-01-2008, 11:15 AM

"I understood what you meant by 'timber'....does that make me an honorary Aussie?"

I'm afraid not Ed. all dictionaries show timber as a building material and some also add that it can be a growing tree. Over here we call the engine cover of a car the bonnet, whilst you call it a hood, they are both things that can be worn on ones head!

**bobj3** · 07-01-2008, 11:31 AM

HI Ed

I was going to put sharp point on them but some don't like to poke holes in the rug or to say the mat under the rug...and the hardwood floor under it..

But it's easy job to do ,just chuck it up the battery type drill ,the stud and take it to the belt sand to get it to a sharp rounded point...

Rolf and Harry are right about the price but 15.oo bucks is 15.oo bucks when you can make you'er own for about a buck and have them in 10 mins.or so, not weeks...

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Originally Posted by karateed

Hi Harry,

Hair styles come and go....this one does both of those.

Thanks everybody for the tips and kind comments. I was wondering about the pointy bits on the spikes.....now I think I've got it.

BJ thanks for the tips on building the spikes, they just need to be pointy and it would work fine.

Harry thanks for your tips, yes, I'm starting to 'get it' a bit...btw, I understood what you meant by 'timber'....does that make me an honorary Aussie?

Rolf, thanks for the info on the spikes, they may be the only new items in the project other than finish materials if he ships to Canada.

Ed......:-)

karateed · 07-01-2008, 12:00 PM

Hi BJ,

Well, this time I spent $10.00 and got the things....I'm a little more wary around grinding metal, I don't like to do it unless it's really necessary...but the tip you gave me will work for a lot of things and I thank you for that....

I have used many of your other tips, just so you know....I don't want you to think you're posting tips and then they are being ignored, they are not.

It's because of people like you that I've had the courage to try some of things that I have tried and I'm actually less afraid of my machinery, in fact I'm actually 'becoming one' with them because you guys have preached safety first and I'm listening. There aren't too many fingerless piano and guitar players so I have to listen. I play both.

Anyway, thanks to everyone who posted tips for me here, I'm very grateful.

Ed......:-)

**bobj3** · 07-01-2008, 12:02 PM

Hi Ed

Spikes
I see you got some on the way from eBay

Way to go bud...

The quick buy gets the worm...

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200235454042

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karateed · 07-12-2008, 03:19 PM

Hi All,

One more pic was in my camera/phone. Just thought I'd post it. It shows how I was rounding the edges, used the same method for the bigger pieces too.

Thanks for looking.

Ed......:-)

06-30-2008, 07:06 PM	#11
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,305 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Looking good Ed I was out in the shop and you came across my mind so I pulled a bolt out of the box and made a spike just for kicks... It took less than 2 mins. to make at a total cost of 15 cents ea. It can be adjusted up or down and then tighten the lock nut... ========== Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 07-01-2008 at 01:52 PM.
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rmaxa Registered User Forum King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rochester, NY First Name: Rolf Posts: 562 View rmaxa's Gallery	Report This Post! Very nice job on your speaker stand project. Check out the link below for about $6.75 you can get two sets of carpet spikes: http://cgi.ebay.com/Speaker-spikes-s...dZp1638Q2em124 __________________ Rolf http://www.rochesterwoodworkers.org/index.html
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harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,333 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! Whilst Bj. has done a near perfect job (they need to be pointed) as of course we have come to expect of him, but the ones brought to our attention by Rolf are exactly what I described in my post and are so cheap that it wouldn't be worth the time making them. "These are nice. I personally use them all the time in my own speaker building, stand building and other audio cabinetry. They are a great addition to sub-woofers, pedestals, stand pods, and tower speakers. On heavy cabinets especially (and speakers that aren't heavy are poorly built) these couple the speaker or stand solidly to the floor. Supposedly the value of these is that yield tighter bass notes. I think that is baloney, but the real value is that they stop "carpet wobble" and prevent the cabinet from rocking and tipping over accidentally possibility that can suddenly and very real (not to mention very dangerous) when kids are around." The above is what the advertiser had to say, I disagree with him regarding bass, on a timber (lumber, wood, cut & dried tree) floor, the difference between spikes and no spikes is very noticeable to all but those with "cloth ears", I do however agree with him on the solidity of the cabinets which should also have cross bracing and be stuffed full of sound deadening material which can be purchased by the metre. Ed. timber should never be forced into the saw or router, just guided with gentle pressure, experience will soon teach you to listen to the saw/ router, it will become obvious when too much pressure is being applied by the change in sound. You figured out correctly how to use a bearing cutter but for truing an edge when you don't have a jointer, make a split fence so that the out-feed side can be moved forward of the in-feed side. Your photo-shoot is excellent and I for one look forward to seeing the conclusion. For the benefit of Bj. __________________ *Harry* Last edited by harrysin; 07-01-2008 at 04:17 AM. Reason: I had forgotten to show what the asterisk was for
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harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,333 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! With all my above ramblings I forgot to congratulate you Ed. on your good taste, you appear to have the same hairstyle as me! __________________ *Harry*
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karateed Registered User Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Squamish, BC Posts: 712 View karateed's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Harry, Hair styles come and go....this one does both of those. Thanks everybody for the tips and kind comments. I was wondering about the pointy bits on the spikes.....now I think I've got it. BJ thanks for the tips on building the spikes, they just need to be pointy and it would work fine. Harry thanks for your tips, yes, I'm starting to 'get it' a bit...btw, I understood what you meant by 'timber'....does that make me an honorary Aussie? Rolf, thanks for the info on the spikes, they may be the only new items in the project other than finish materials if he ships to Canada. Ed......:-)
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harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,333 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! "I understood what you meant by 'timber'....does that make me an honorary Aussie?" I'm afraid not Ed. all dictionaries show timber as a building material and some also add that it can be a growing tree. Over here we call the engine cover of a car the bonnet, whilst you call it a hood, they are both things that can be worn on ones head! __________________ *Harry*
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karateed Registered User Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Squamish, BC Posts: 712 View karateed's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi BJ, Well, this time I spent $10.00 and got the things....I'm a little more wary around grinding metal, I don't like to do it unless it's really necessary...but the tip you gave me will work for a lot of things and I thank you for that.... I have used many of your other tips, just so you know....I don't want you to think you're posting tips and then they are being ignored, they are not. It's because of people like you that I've had the courage to try some of things that I have tried and I'm actually less afraid of my machinery, in fact I'm actually 'becoming one' with them because you guys have preached safety first and I'm listening. There aren't too many fingerless piano and guitar players so I have to listen. I play both. Anyway, thanks to everyone who posted tips for me here, I'm very grateful. Ed......:-)
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07-01-2008, 12:02 PM	#19
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,305 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Ed Spikes I see you got some on the way from eBay Way to go bud... The quick buy gets the worm... http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200235454042 ======= __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 07-01-2008 at 12:06 PM.
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karateed Registered User Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Squamish, BC Posts: 712 View karateed's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi All, One more pic was in my camera/phone. Just thought I'd post it. It shows how I was rounding the edges, used the same method for the bigger pieces too. Thanks for looking. Ed......:-) Attached Thumbnails
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