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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-15-2017, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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Default Adhesive & Paper dulling bit?

Does anyone know if routing through a glued down patten will dull a bit faster? I have always transferred the pattern with carbon paper, but the alternative sure would be a time saver.

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I am sure it does by it would be minimal, plywood is full of glue, buy good bits and sharpen them.
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Don't understand why you would route through a pattern (patten?).
But if you did, the wear on the cutter would depend on the depth of cut and number of copies.
A few here and there, no problem.
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You rout thru the pattern? Or the paper to the edge of the pattern?

Not enough to say, I would think. I rout plywood for almost all of my projects, and no issues. Wear on a router bit, in my experience, seems to depend mostly on what brand I am using, I try to stick with high quality bits, unless I need a bit right now, then I pretty much take what I can find locally..

I don't rout glued down patterns, I cut them out with my scrollsaw, then sand to final shape. But this is how I make my masters - glue the cut out pattern to another piece of plywood, use the first one to rout the glued on piece, and that gives me a 1" thick master - which is what I use to rout out pieces.
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I think the OP is talking about free hand routing signs. I have never done that, but I see on the forums a lot of guys using adhesive patterns to do signs.
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I've printed out patterns on the computer and then glued them down. I usually do like Theo and cut and sand but routing shouldn't be an issue. I strongly recommend Lee Valley's Fish Glue for this. It stays water soluble forever so when you want to remove whatever paper is left you just spray it with water, wait a minute, and then peel it off. The residue wipes up with a damp cloth. Lots of uses for fish glue.
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This is for freehand routing, I should have mentioned that.
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Floyd,
I would suggest that you checkout "Routerforums.com". You will definitely find the answer for your question there.
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Floyd,
I would suggest that you checkout "Routerforums.com". You will definitely find the answer for your question there.
Am I missing something? His question (and your suggestion) are both on Routerforums.com.
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Floyd,

The only thing I would watch out for is build up of glue on the bit. You want to use a glue that won't burn and build up on the bit, this will heat up the bit and loose the temper dulling the bit quicker. The chips of wood removed normally carry the heat from the bit with then keeping the bit cooler. Keep the router moving so it is always cutting, if it spins in one spot too long it heats up the bit.

The big thing in doing signs free hand with a router is practice, practice, practice. Have fun with your signs.
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