Router Forums

Register Now!

It appears that you aren't a registered member, click below to instantly register and become a member of the RouterForums.com Community!

Register Now!

** Registration removes majority of the website advertisements **


Go Back   Router Forums > General Woodworking > Starting Off

Starting Off If you're new to any power tool and/or woodworking technique, or you just have some general questions about starting a project, feel free to post your questions here!


New Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-02-2008, 02:33 AM   #1
kleptic
Registered User
Jr. Member
 
kleptic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Posts: 15
kleptic is on a distinguished road

Default is it possible to woodwork without 20k in tools?

I have a jigsaw, circular saw, corded and cordless screw gun, and an orbital sander. I plan on getting a bosch combination plunge/fixed base router soon. I'm wondering though. Is it even possible to do much woodworking without having a full shop of all the huge tools like tablesaw/planer/jointer/bandsaw/etc

I don't really have room for a lot of huge tools and I will probably be working outside most of the time so I will be moving them outside to work.

I guess I'm wondering what tools are required and if there are any shortcuts or cheaper ways to do the jobs these huge machines do.

Over the years I'll be able to get some more equipment but in the mean time I would like to see what I can do without.

I just made a couple bookcases and I plan on making a king size platform bed with drawers in it. I also want to make a liquor cabinet and a couple computer desks. eventually I would like to get more advanced though.

so I kind of rambled but any advice will be greatly appreciated.

thanks
Kyle

Last edited by kleptic; 02-02-2008 at 02:59 AM.
kleptic is offline   Top - Reply with Quote
Alt Sponsor Post
Advertising



Alt Sponsored Links

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Router Forums
   
Old 02-02-2008, 03:26 AM   #2
curiousgeorge
Registered User
Supreme Forum King
 
curiousgeorge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Fort Worth,Texas USA
First Name: George
Posts: 1,588
curiousgeorge is on a distinguished road

Send a message via Skype™ to curiousgeorge

Hello, Kyle. Welcome to the forums.
If you think about it, how was it done before the industrial revolution and power tools? By hand! So, you see, all of these expensive "POWER" tools are not really necessary. So, with just a good supply of the basic hand tools you could build just about anything. Now. Having said all that historical BS, you would be surprised at what can be accomplished with a circular saw, router, and the basic hand tools. There are some good craftsmen who make some fine furniture out there with less than that.
Check out this site:
http://sawdustmaking.com/
__________________
George
For those who haven't already done so...
PLEASE! PLEASE! Fill in your first name and location in your profile.
curiousgeorge is offline   Top - Reply with Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 03:54 AM   #3
nzgeordie
Registered User
Forum King
 
nzgeordie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Upper Hutt, New Zealand
Posts: 698
nzgeordie is on a distinguished road


Heck yes, Kyle! Look under Tools and Woodworking and you'll see a $20 plane I picked up and refurbished. All it cost was some time and effort. Now the shavings just curl off it If you've got the basics, you can turn out some beautiful work without expensive power tools.
__________________
Pete
I've cut it twice and it's still too short! But only at one end.
nzgeordie is offline   Top - Reply with Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 03:58 AM   #4
bobj3
Forum Contributer
Supreme Forum King
 
bobj3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A.
Posts: 8,300
bobj3 is a jewel in the roughbobj3 is a jewel in the roughbobj3 is a jewel in the rough


Hi Kyle

Woodworking it just like any thing you want to do it takes money.

Let's take racing cars (drag racing) anyone can run in the 16s but if you want to run in the low 9s well it takes more money,, when you get into woodworking you are running in the 16s and the more you get into it the more you want to run in the low 9s...just like the big boys many don't get into the 10s until then drop the big bucks for more equipment ... same thing is true for anything you want to do...it takes bucks and time..


======
__________________
PodCast videos
RWS on YouTube

http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html
Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables
http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail
Machine Cut ▼
http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/

http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/

http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm

Bob J.

bobj3 is offline   Top - Reply with Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 05:58 AM   #5
Mike
Senior Moderator
Supreme Forum King
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Detroit, Michigan USA
Posts: 3,380
Mike has disabled reputation

Send a message via AIM to Mike Send a message via Yahoo to Mike Send a message via Skype™ to Mike

Kyle, There are many jigs and fixtures you can build that take the place of spending big bucks. Power tools does not mean better, but it usually means easier and faster. Perhaps the single most important tool you can own is a bench that is easy to clamp to. A handsaw will cut wood the same or better than a power saw IF the material is held firmly in place and you have learned how to use the saw properly. Hand cut dovetails are usually superior to dovetails that have been routed but at the cost of much more time. Most of us opt for the easier use of power tools so we can complete our projects quickly. We are not trying to create museum quality furniture, we are trying to build functional, useful items with a fair amount of quality.
__________________
Mike
Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you.
Mike is offline   Top - Reply with Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 06:11 AM   #6
fibertech
Registered User
Forum Geek
 
fibertech's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Everett, WA USA
Posts: 334
fibertech is on a distinguished road

Send a message via AIM to fibertech

Kyle, You have a great start. Pick up a couple of woodworking magazines at your local grocery store and you will see numerous projects that are exclusively done by hand or small power tools. You found us here and you will find tons of information. Most of us are hobbyists and many people are very advanced. Turn on PBS on Saturday afternoon and if lucky, you will see Bob and Rick (the 2 guys at the top of this page). Get a router, use what else that you have and build a table for the router and you will be amazed. Stick with it. Post lots of pictures and Harry with be your friend for life. -Derek
fibertech is offline   Top - Reply with Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 09:02 AM   #7
Hamlin
Registered User
Supreme Forum King
 
Hamlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Baldwin City, KS
First Name: Ken
Posts: 1,576
Hamlin is an unknown quantity at this point

Send a message via MSN to Hamlin

Welcome to the router forums Kyle. To answer, yes it is. The most important tools any type of worker has is, their brain and hands. Patience, ingenuity, one can do anything.
__________________
Ken

"A VETERAN"
"Whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life". That is HONOR, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -Author Unknown
Hamlin is offline   Top - Reply with Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 12:34 PM   #8
vapochilled
Registered User
Forum Fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 146
vapochilled is on a distinguished road


It's actually better to not start with 20K of tools, you'll hurt yourself and you probably wont understand what is happening to the wood!
Take a cheap $30 plane and make it sharp and true, then have at a piece of old 2x6 pine! You will learn much, you'll Learn to "feel" what the wood is doing.
Take a hand saw, mark some straight lines on the wood and cut those lines........straight! It takes years to build the skill to all this by hand, power tools simply speed up the proccess, but they don't teach as well as by doing it by hand.
If your doing woodwork as a hobby, there's no rush right? learn slow, make mistakes with cheap tool. dropping a $4 chissel is a lot less painful than plunging a mortising machine into a piece of wood that has a hidden nail in it! lol
vapochilled is offline   Top - Reply with Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 01:30 PM   #9
Drugstore Cowboy
Registered User
Forum Geek
 
Drugstore Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fort Worth, Tx
Posts: 439
Drugstore Cowboy is on a distinguished road


Contrary to what many woodworking magazines and forums might lead you to believe -
Actually very little is required.
And -- no -- it does not take a lot of money
As evidence I invite you to visit most any museum or antique store and observe some EXCELLENT examples of the very items you mentioned built with little more than a chisel, a draw knife, a plane, a hand saw and a brace and bit.

Beyond that you get into the realm of things that are desired and preferred.
There are all kinds of things that make various jobs go easier, faster etc.
And when you get into that realm you can spend a FORTUNE.
Mind you - there are a lot of things I desire and prefer just like anyone else.

It sounds like you have a pretty good start.
The only thing I would add would be a router -- and not because that is the topic of this site but because it does make it easier to round over corners etc.

Beyond that -- as has already been mentioned -- the most important 'tool' in a woodshop -- is the craftsman. To me it is much more valuable to spend time and energy learning skills than money buying bells and whistles.
__________________
The one who says it can't be done --
Should avoid interrupting
the person doing it.
Drugstore Cowboy is offline   Top - Reply with Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 01:39 PM   #10
Dr.Zook
Official Greeter
Supreme Forum King
 
Dr.Zook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: New Lebanon, Ohio "USA"
First Name: Dave or "Doc"
Posts: 4,714
Dr.Zook is on a distinguished road

Send a message via Skype™ to Dr.Zook

Welcome to the Router Forums Kyle.
__________________
Dave
the "Doctor"

In woodworking there is no scrap, only firewood.

Please edit your profile with a name and location so we can better assist you and make for a friendlier forum.
Dr.Zook is online now   Top - Reply with Quote
New Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1000 bucks in new tools. what to get? kleptic Tools and Woodworking 10 06-13-2008 02:24 AM
the truth about milwaukee an aeg tools toolsreview Tool Reviews 3 01-13-2008 08:05 AM
Newest Tools BernieW Woodturning and Lathes 6 11-23-2007 01:57 PM
Japanese Carving Tools KoLdArKnEsS Tools and Woodworking 1 09-15-2006 08:23 AM
Which tools for most jobs Bob Tools and Woodworking 9 12-26-2004 09:00 PM

RouterWorkshop.net - EagleAmerica.com – Over 2,000 Router Bits - Your Advertisement Here! - Your Advertisement Here! - Your Advertisement Here!

RouterForums.com - Your online woodworking community!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Copyright © 2008 - 2009 RouterForums.com Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Professional Web Hosting Solutions provided by: BeastInternet.com