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23 ga Pinning into MDF edges?

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Old 06-25-2009, 09:15 AM   #21 (permalink)
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hi Derek

"I only use the green one ( moisture resistant)"

That's be must hard to make out of saw dust, they sell the same type of screws in the states and they still split the MDF in the states, I would love to see a snapshot of the edge of a board with screw going into place,, one or two from about 1 1/2" from the end..

I have drilled the hole out so big the screw will not hold anything but just act as steel line up pin..but not act like a clamp so to speak..

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Old 06-25-2009, 09:22 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Bob,
I'll see what I can do, but I am unable to go into the workshop until the weekend, hospital clinic tomorrow, and tied up for the rest of today. Nevertheless!!!
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Just for you Bob.
I thought, don't let the grass grow under your feet, here is a demonstration piece as you requested, with the bugle headed self drilling screws, countersinking is not neccessary.
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Never having worked with the green MDF I was pleased to learn about it. The 23 gauge pin nailers mentioned so far run from $25 @ HF, $39 @ Amazon, around $130 for the PC Pin100, and that leaves only the Grex line which are priced from $199 and up. Grex do have the ability to shoot much longer pin nails... up to 2" from what I have seen. I'm not sure that there is a need for pin nails of that length, seems like something stronger would be called for. Anybody own one of the Grex nailers and would comment on it?
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Thanks derek

It's looks green,,well I will be damed I wish we had it in the states

Thanks for taking the time to do it.. now I will be looking for some in the states..

http://www.asianproducts.com/product...0840675244.htm
http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/...cussionID=3361
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/...MDF_Board.html

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Yeah, where is that saw....just kidding, Jim, I bet you are like a kid the night before Christmas. I know I would be.
I've had a few of these air/brad nailers and if the smaller pin nailers are like their bigger brothers, it pays to get a good one. For casing and other wall trim, I use a Senco and a Porter Cable. As long as the fasteners ae loaded correctly, they operate without needless jamming.
I didn't use any fasteners for the last couple of MDF edge bandings, choosing to glue and clamp. I see Bob's point, though, saving the time to clamp is a consideration. I might have to change my ways . Good luck with your new pin nailer.
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I wouldn't blame people for wondering if this tablesaw-thing is real or just talk; I've been talking about it long enough!

It's frustrating though. They indicated it'd be 7-10 days delivery when I was looking. When I asked them to confirm availability & went in with the deposit, they told me Delta was quoting 4-5 weeks to delivery. Now it's one down, 3-4 to go.

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Hi Derek,

Thanks for posting a pic of the green MDF. I'm with Bj though, it's not here in the states. If it is, I must be lookin in the wrong places.


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Now, remember, patience is the key to woodworking.... yea right.
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I'd called my local cabinet makers supplier here in Anchorage asking about the stuff. He knew about it and indicated they used to stock it but had lost the source. If it s used in high-end homes, a wood supplier to custom cabinetmakers would likey know.

The mentioned I may want to consider MDO (like MDF but denser and water resistant; marketed for outside signs). Anyone have any experience with MDO?
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Hi Jim

I have used it once or twice but the price almost gag me...

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Yea Lance,

I wouldn't blame people for wondering if this tablesaw-thing is real or just talk; I've been talking about it long enough!

It's frustrating though. They indicated it'd be 7-10 days delivery when I was looking. When I asked them to confirm availability & went in with the deposit, they told me Delta was quoting 4-5 weeks to delivery. Now it's one down, 3-4 to go.

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I seem to forget that what gets printed on the screen can be interperted in many ways.....forgive me if I seemed to infer that you were just "all talk". That was the farthest thing from my mind when I wrote that little sarcastic jab.

I know how it is with some of the suppliers. Even down in the lower 48, delivery can be painstaking. I hope that the saw gets delivered in a timely fashion. I am really waiting for your impressions of the Delta after you put it through a few paces.

I was using the Senco Finish Pro 35, today. I don't know how I could hang a door or window without an air nailer, anymore.
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