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I am somewhat of an amateur woodworker, and this is my first time to post in this forum. I have a radial saw but no table saw, etc., and Iím just starting to get into routing. I have just purchased and assembled a Bosch RA1171 router table, and Iím looking for a quality router for it. Since I would prefer not to have to change the tableís mounting plate and since Iíve read good reviews on both the Bosch 1617EVSPK and Bosch 1619EVS routers, both of which will fit the RA1171 mounting plate, Iíd prefer to buy one of those two, and I have some questions for anyone who can help.

First, Iíve heard that you need at least a 3 HP router for raised panel, etc. work, and even though I donít plan to do any of that at this time, Iíd like to think that whatever router I buy will be able to handle that level of routing later, so my first question is, can the 2 ľ HP Bosch 1617EVSPK adequately handle large bits and raised panel work, or will I need the 3 ľ HP Bosch 1619EVS for such applications?

Second, if I buy the 1619EVS (which is a plunge router only), would it be difficult to use the 1619EVS router in a router table, and would I have to do anything like removing springs, etc., in order to get proper bit depth settings with the 1619EVS?

Third, if I buy the 1619EVS, would it be too heavy or unwieldy for handheld work?

I know that the 1619EVS is a more expensive router than the 1617EVSPK, but cost is much less of a concern to me than performance, so I will appreciate any advice that anyone has on the issue.

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Welcome Louis. The 1617 is about as good as it gets in all around performance. Keep in mind that wrestling a larger router around will be a pain. The 1617 is very easy to control. Mount the fixed base to your table and it is only a matter of seconds to switch it to the plunge base for free hand work. Keep in mind that the new Vertical panel raising bits are much smaller in diameter and require less power. They also cost less. I have long been an advocate of the 1617 but I have to admit the new Hitachi combo kit is very similar in quality and at this time is actually a much better value. Amazon is selling the Hitachi kit for $87! I would recommend this kit as a best value to all members since it includes guide bushings, dust collection and otherwise is almost identical to the 1617. $100 savings over the Bosch will buy you some quality bits.

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Hello Louis: I believe if you go with the 1617 you will be very pleased. I have been using the 1617 in my table for about a year and have made a variety of moldings for some cabinets that I built. I haven't gotten to the raised panel doors yet but I have no doubts that this machine will do the job effectively. It's also easy to remove from the table for hand work and the plunge mechanism is smooth and accurate. I also have a Porter Cable 690 so I leave my Bosch in the table and use the PC if I have hand work to do. I don't think you will be unhappy with the Bosch. Good luck- Smootcut
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This is a reply from Bosch about the switch problem that has been discussed..
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"Thank you for writing. We never had this issue with the 1619 router. This was only the case on the 1617 and 1618 series routers. The switch issue was corrected as of June '05 when we did extensive testing and changed the switch to one that was internally dust sealed. Please let me know if there is anything more I can help you with."
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Hello Louis, Welcome to the RouterForums

I have both the 1617 and the 1619. I used the 1617 in my Bosch Table until recently when I bought the 1619 and it went straight into my table. I like the 1617 for free hand and if you buy the 1619 you will find it too heavy for free hand, it weighs 13 pounds.

I used my 1617 in the table until I could afford the 1619. It was a hard choice between buying the 1619 and buying another 1617. I believe you will be very happy with the 1617 which I liked from the day I purchased it.

Also the best piece of Advice I can give is go pick up the routers and see how they feel in your hands before buying, if you have not already done so.
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John,
Yes, I've had the same reply from the Bosch rep, and I was told the same thing that you were, that the switch problem was corrected in June 2005. The problem is, I would rather not have the switch fail in the middle of a project, then have to wait for a replacement switch from Bosch. Even though Bosch says that the problem was corrected in June 2005, the only way that they have told me that one can determine whether a unit has one of the corrected or non-corrected switches is by the serial number stamped on the router housing. At all of my local Lowe's (the only local retailer selling that model), the display models all have the older serial numbers, indicating the older, unsealed switches. I can't open the cartons of the non-display units to determine whether they have the sealed switches or not, and Bosch has nothing on the outside of the carton to distinguish the older from the newer.
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LBrandt, ask your local Lowe's or Home Depot to order you one. If they want you as a customer, they will do this for ya.

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Ken,
Thanks. Well, I've done something very close to what you've suggested. One of my 3 Lowe's was out of stock (except for the display), so they have ordered one for stock. It's not actually ordered for me, since I didn't pay for it yet. Hopefully, it will be shipped from newer stock and will have the corrected, sealed switch. Of course, I still won't know until it comes in and I pay for it and check the serial number (according to Bosch CS, serial numbers beginning with H578 have the newer switch). I've also emailed Bosch CS and asked them whether they would be willing to ship a new switch to me, on the chance that I buy one with the older switch, even before the switch goes out, thereby keeping me from being in the middle of a project without a router. I haven't heard from Bosch on that question yet.
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Hello Louis,

From what I have read is that if you have a switch to go out on the Bosch router they will send you one.
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I almost hate to bring this up but has anyone looked at the box to see if the serial number is on the outside? With all the inventory controls and such I have found that most tools have the number in plain view. Now I can not speak to Bosch but this is the box my hitachi trim router came in and the M780073 is the serial number. I also looked at a Porter Cable sander box I have it too has the number on the outside... I also checked a Milwaukee drill box I still have and it too has the serial number on the outside of the box.

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