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Old 05-07-2007, 04:22 PM   #1
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Default Doweling on router table

Good day

I would like to share with you my method of drilling dowel holes on my crazy router table.

I'm doweling frames and carcasses precisely and quickly with 2 very simple settings.

I did not show on the pics the bit height setting but, in general I lift the bit to the required height, lock the plunge, set the plunge stop and release the plunge lock.

Another setting that is not shown is setting the fence to drill at the center of the wood thickness.
It's not so important to drill exactly at the center of the thickness, ±1/32" is ok, all the holes will be drilled at the same distance from the fence.

The numbers that you see on the spacers [4.0 and 6.0 (40mm and 60mm)] are Centimeters, I measure in cm's because that's what I see on all my measuring tapes and rulers.

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Old 05-07-2007, 11:34 PM   #3
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Gentlemen, what can we say about Niki? This guy certainly thinks "outside of the box" The ingenuity shown again in this latest photo-shoot is quite amazing. I'm seriously thinking of abandoning biscuits and returning to dowels now that I can toss out my forty year old dowelling jig which requires a good pair of eyes.
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I would 2nd that Harry. Excellent work Niki.

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Old 05-08-2007, 10:32 AM   #5
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Hi Niki

I applaud your ingenuity but why don't you use a drill dress for this type of job ?
One of the many cheap counter top dress presses ($60.oo type) would work well for this type of job But I'm just asking why not. ?
Don't get me wrong I love the router but it's only one tool that's needed in the shop.
Many companies make a drill dress that can hold a hand type drill, that they sale for about 25.oo bucks or so that would work well also.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44506
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=41345
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95223
http://www.grizzly.com/products/g8061

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Old 05-08-2007, 02:05 PM   #6
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Thank you so much for your kind compliments

BJ
There are a few reasons that I don't make it on the DP.

1. Drill bit is normally HSS and router bit is Carbide and makes much nicer, precise and flat-bottom hole.

2. On the DP the dust goes down into the hole while on the router table the dust goes out of the hole.

3. but the biggest problem is, how do I make the holes on the vertical members with my amateurs bench DP and sometimes I have a 55" long board.
Even with the big (stand) DP you shall have to make some jig to hold the vertical board at 90° to the drill bit and you can easily loose the "Point-to Point" with the horizontal board.

For the router table, I had to add only a piece of 2 x 4 as a pedal and two sticks cut from a broomstick.

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Hi niki

1. Forstner Bit 7 Piece CARBIDE TIPPED
Spiral Set
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...xtender_anchor
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-DRILL-BITS-SET...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Freud-Carbide-Fo...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/20-PC-FORSTNER-B...QQcmdZViewItem

2. blow out the hole with compress air b/4 you install the dowel .

3. The drillpress will run on it's side, it just take's a block under the head to hold it up,so to speak .it's just a big hand drill in away.... (horz.drill once it's on it's side.) like ShopSmith setup.

Many ways to get the job done

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Hi BJ

First, let me to admire you, you have an answer to any situation.

Now,
1. Very nice set but usually the set that I have is enough for me and why to spend money.

2. So you want me to buy also an Air compressor

3. Still I shall have to build very precise jig to hold the work at 90° to the drill and "drill up", "Drill down"

See you friend, tomorrow morning (In 8 hours) I'm flying to Japan and hope to come back with some Green/Black thingy...

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Have a GOOD Trip niki , I wish I was going to Japan too, pick me up a Hitachi as well, do you have to pay duty if you put it in your suit case ?
They also sale VERY SMALL compressors that you can get in your suit case .


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Niki did it again!!

You just gotta love that automated router lift!!

Simple Logic... SimpleNik... Ingenius solution...

Rube Goldberg would have been very proud of you!

Niki, just wonderful! Thank you...


Now, could the same thing happen upside down using a plunge router?
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