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kp91 · 06-22-2007, 02:09 PM

Niki,

I think taking only one spring out might make it more difficult, causing it to kick over to one side.

The best way would be to find some 'softer' springs. The hard part is finding them.

For work purposes I've had custom springs manufactured, and it was not that expensive for the large batches (100 springs -- $200), but I don't know how cost effective that would be on a real small run.

You may be able to find an industrial supply company/catalog that has something you could use. I would NOT cut your springs, since that will only reduce their tension over part of their range, and you can't go back should you cut too short.....

The only other thing I could think of is for you to use your ingenuity to engineer your own version of the WoodRat plunge bar.
http://woodrat.com/plungebars.html

Hope this helps,

**bobj3** · 06-22-2007, 02:55 PM

Hi niki
I would not cut them

, once cut that's it you can't fix it or change it,,this is what I would try take some fine wire and tie up 2 or 4 coils in the center of the spring and then give it a try...this may do it...if you have some of the picture hanging wire and take one wire out of the rap and use it..also some of the small cable (1/8" type that has 8 or more in the rap...the center one is the best)

I do like jigs , anyone can do it one time but to do it over and over the same way it takes a jig/fixture..

Bj

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Originally Posted by simplenik

Hi BJ

As we were talking ones, I turn Green when I see your prices but, just to bring it to Europe it will increase the price by...too much...and the Imperial/Metric makes it even worse...and it will not justify the money for the 2½ boxes that I'll make in a year.

About jigs, for me, part of the woodworking hobby is, the challenge to make them myself and achieve the same results as the bought one (reading through your posts, I have the impression that you are also "Jig Maniac").

For example; Rockler has a Tenon jig that rides on the miter slot but I like the challenge of making it myself and, I made it, riding on the fence on rollers, steady as a rock and moving smooth like a Felder slider...

I would like to ask you, can I remove only one of the springs on M8V2 without any side-effects...this router has a "3¼ HP" springs that are heavy on my 63 years old hands...on the other hand, I want the "sprigability".
Or, maybe I can cut some, say, 1" of the spring length and see how it works...

Thanks
niki

simplenik · 06-22-2007, 05:50 PM

Thank you BJ

I'll give it a try. I still have some thin stainless steel "Safety wire" from the times that I was aircraft mechanic...35 years and it still looks like new...yes, it's Made in USA...at the times of the good old Boeing 707...

Thanks
niki

**bobj3** · 06-22-2007, 06:02 PM

Hi niki

You'er Welcome pull your Safety wire tool out of the tool box and give it a try can't hurt

simplenik · 06-22-2007, 06:31 PM

Hey BJ

That's exactly the one that I was using...sadly, I don't have it anymore...

Regards
niki

**bobj3** · 06-22-2007, 09:35 PM

Hi niki

They are great tools, at one time I sold many of them to aircraft mechanics

It's the base tool they all use ...

**challagan** · 06-22-2007, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by simplenik

Joe
Not only that "Gets em every time" but also helps sooo much to get new tool...how do you think I got my new router...

Regards
niki

LOL...... Niki knows how to play the game... that's easy to see

I have gotten pretty good at it as well.

Corey

fibertech · 06-23-2007, 04:05 AM

This is exactly what I love about this forum. A true hobbyist like Niki takes the time and effort to show his creations, Bobj3 and his constant searching for right tool for the job- and the bargains that can be found. Mike for having a better than good knowledge of finishing and the list goes on. I am right in the middle of remodeling my shop and can't wait to get on with the long list of projects. The inspiration here is priceless. -Derek

**harrysin** · 06-23-2007, 04:21 AM

Hi Niki, you're idea of fitting 4 boards together then passing through the saw is definitely the way to go, as for making all 4 at the same time, I don't know, if there is a stuff-up, we lose the lot or make the box smaller!

simplenik · 06-23-2007, 10:53 AM

Hi Harry

I just came from the garage after making the finger joints on all 4 boards together and I see your comment about making them all at the same time...

Please have a look in the new post "My first finger joint box"

Cheers
niki

06-22-2007, 02:09 PM	#11
kp91 Marine Engineer Forum King Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Fredericksburg, VA First Name: Doug Posts: 919 View kp91's Gallery	Report This Post! Niki, I think taking only one spring out might make it more difficult, causing it to kick over to one side. The best way would be to find some 'softer' springs. The hard part is finding them. For work purposes I've had custom springs manufactured, and it was not that expensive for the large batches (100 springs -- $200), but I don't know how cost effective that would be on a real small run. You may be able to find an industrial supply company/catalog that has something you could use. I would NOT cut your springs, since that will only reduce their tension over part of their range, and you can't go back should you cut too short..... The only other thing I could think of is for you to use your ingenuity to engineer your own version of the WoodRat plunge bar. http://woodrat.com/plungebars.html Hope this helps, __________________ Doug 1 John 1:9
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simplenik Registered User Forum Geek Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 228 View simplenik's Gallery	Report This Post! Thank you BJ I'll give it a try. I still have some thin stainless steel "Safety wire" from the times that I was aircraft mechanic...35 years and it still looks like new...yes, it's Made in USA...at the times of the good old Boeing 707... Thanks niki
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06-22-2007, 06:02 PM	#14
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,256 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi niki You'er Welcome pull your Safety wire tool out of the tool box and give it a try can't hurt Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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06-22-2007, 06:31 PM	#15
simplenik Registered User Forum Geek Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 228 View simplenik's Gallery	Report This Post! Hey BJ That's exactly the one that I was using...sadly, I don't have it anymore... Regards niki
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,256 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi niki They are great tools, at one time I sold many of them to aircraft mechanics It's the base tool they all use ... __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 06-22-2007 at 09:42 PM.
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fibertech Registered User Forum Geek Join Date: May 2005 Location: Everett, WA USA Posts: 334 View fibertech's Gallery	Report This Post! This is exactly what I love about this forum. A true hobbyist like Niki takes the time and effort to show his creations, Bobj3 and his constant searching for right tool for the job- and the bargains that can be found. Mike for having a better than good knowledge of finishing and the list goes on. I am right in the middle of remodeling my shop and can't wait to get on with the long list of projects. The inspiration here is priceless. -Derek
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harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,322 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Niki, you're idea of fitting 4 boards together then passing through the saw is definitely the way to go, as for making all 4 at the same time, I don't know, if there is a stuff-up, we lose the lot or make the box smaller! __________________ *Harry*
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06-23-2007, 10:53 AM	#20
simplenik Registered User Forum Geek Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 228 View simplenik's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Harry I just came from the garage after making the finger joints on all 4 boards together and I see your comment about making them all at the same time... Please have a look in the new post "My first finger joint box" Cheers niki
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