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**harrysin** · 08-16-2007, 10:13 AM

Bj, I forgot to add that I put the biggest cutter that I had fully into the collet,That's right, fully into the collet as per the owners manual, and the cranked spanner has plenty of clearance, I have a shot of it still in the camera.

**bobj3** · 08-16-2007, 09:15 PM

Hi Harry

This is a bit off the subject but I thought you would get a kick out of seeing the item below, for lifting the router up and down

with a true read out...just some new stuff coming out for the router table...

and I sure it's only the tip of the ice burg,new didital fence,didital Incra equipment for the router table and table saw,didital table saw,band saw.etc. the age of the didital computer equipment is coming fast and hard,,,and you know americans we want all the good things that we can find for the new home shop...the next thing will be a cabinet for the router bits that will just open with a button and it will have a picture of the bit on the screen that will give all the info about the bit and how to use it..

I want one

http://www.jointech.com/smartliftdigital.htm
http://pricecutter.com/product.asp?p...cd2=1187311670
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=17320
http://www.nextag.com/router-lift/search-html

review below
http://www.rockler.com/blog/index.cfm?commentID=143

Bj

S Bolton · 08-16-2007, 10:04 PM

I am wondering if anyone has experience with the MLCS horizontal router table? Well made? Worth the money?

Thanks

Steve Bolton

**bobj3** · 08-16-2007, 11:24 PM

Hi Steve

Yes and Yes and Yes

see the link below for the one I have from MLCS

http://www.routerforums.com/show-n-t...4-new-toy.html

Bj

**harrysin** · 08-17-2007, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobj3

Hi Harry

This is a bit off the subject but I thought you would get a kick out of seeing the item below, for lifting the router up and down

with a true read out...just some new stuff coming out for the router table...

and I sure it's only the tip of the ice burg,new didital fence,didital Incra equipment for the router table and table saw,didital table saw,band saw.etc. the age of the didital computer equipment is coming fast and hard,,,and you know americans we want all the good things that we can find for the new home shop...the next thing will be a cabinet for the router bits that will just open with a button and it will have a picture of the bit on the screen that will give all the info about the bit and how to use it..

I want one

http://www.jointech.com/smartliftdigital.htm
http://pricecutter.com/product.asp?p...cd2=1187311670
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=17320
http://www.nextag.com/router-lift/search-html

review below
http://www.rockler.com/blog/index.cfm?commentID=143

Bj

Bj. I have already posted an answer to this post,but it seems to have got lost in space, so here is something like it again.
I sure would like one but not at that price. I'm sure that with a bit of thought a digital vernier could be adapted to my Nikilift which cost virtually nothing to make

**bobj3** · 08-17-2007, 10:06 AM

Hi Harry

Thanks for the picture.. Now put in a T & G or a R & S bit,, as you know once the 1st. bit is used the router should NOT be moved up or down ,,,that's if you want the joint to come out right on the button, you can take 30 mins. reset the router for the 2nd bit in the set, but it's so easy not to move the router at all and put in the 2nd bit and the joint will come out right on the spot....without the need to do any sanding on the parts to get that nice clean fit at glue up...

As you know all most all R & S bit sets are matched, that's to say the cutters are the same height for both cutters from the bottom of the shanks, the Mfg. go to alot of extra work to get that done...(matched set)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by harrysin

Bj. I have already posted an answer to this post,but it seems to have got lost in space, so here is something like it again.
I sure would like one but not at that price. I'm sure that with a bit of thought a digital vernier could be adapted to my Nikilift which cost virtually nothing to make

**harrysin** · 08-18-2007, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobj3

Hi Harry

Thanks for the picture.. Now put in a T & G or a R & S bit,, as you know once the 1st. bit is used the router should NOT be moved up or down ,,,that's if you want the joint to come out right on the button, you can take 30 mins. reset the router for the 2nd bit in the set, but it's so easy not to move the router at all and put in the 2nd bit and the joint will come out right on the spot....without the need to do any sanding on the parts to get that nice clean fit at glue up...

As you know all most all R & S bit sets are matched, that's to say the cutters are the same height for both cutters from the bottom of the shanks, the Mfg. go to alot of extra work to get that done...(matched set)

============

Unfortunately my R&S cutters are not the same length as shown, it's a pity because as they have to be fully into the collet of the Triton, it would have made things very simple.

**bobj3** · 08-18-2007, 02:05 AM

Hi Harry

I know I'm being a pain but it looks like a matched set...

Do this put a rubber gromet in the base of the collet nut, it can also be a faucet washer the hvy. duty type (1/8" thick) but it needs to be rubber so when you crank it down and the rubber will let it do so... press the gromet in the botton of the collet nut, just flush with the botton of the nut,,, now put one of the bits in the collet then put it in the router, then tighten it down with your hand then get the wrench out and grank it down,,,make a pass with it then take the bit out and do the same with the other bit....if it's matched set the parts will line on the dot...

BUT Don't move the router up or down...

The rubber gromet is a stop point for the bits don't push the gromet down when you put the bit in the nut...just a nice light touch....

Most faucet washer are right at 1/2" OD but sometimes you will need to clean the outside off it so it's clean with our any tits....I like to use the faucet washers because they stay in place unlike the rubber gromets....

**harrysin** · 08-18-2007, 10:31 AM

I'm not sure Bj. the reason for the rubber as the makers of my Triton router state,
NOTE: When fitting cutters, ensure the shank is inserted fully into the collet.
I must have been lucky with the doors that I've made because I have re-adjusted the router and only the first time was there a slight error. It might be a case of "if you have not been told that something can't be done, you simply go ahead and do it"! The forum appears to be light-on for projects at the moment, so in a few days I will present a photo-shoot of a new little box using the Oak Park spacer fence and a little ski routing plus a square inlay set at 45deg. incl. making the template.

**bobj3** · 08-18-2007, 10:46 AM

Hi Harry

I now use it and have it ALL may routers,(O-ring,gromet,faucet washer) I got this tip from Marc Sommerfeld the owner of sommerfeldtools.com
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/
and
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/smfld-5.htm
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/smfld-3.htm
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/cmt-jr9.htm
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/table-8.htm

=========

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrysin

I'm not sure Bj. the reason for the rubber as the makers of my Triton router state,
NOTE: When fitting cutters, ensure the shank is inserted fully into the collet.
I must have been lucky with the doors that I've made because I have re-adjusted the router and only the first time was there a slight error. It might be a case of "if you have not been told that something can't be done, you simply go ahead and do it"! The forum appears to be light-on for projects at the moment, so in a few days I will present a photo-shoot of a new little box using the Oak Park spacer fence and a little ski routing plus a square inlay set at 45deg. incl. making the template.

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harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,320 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! Bj, I forgot to add that I put the biggest cutter that I had fully into the collet,That's right, fully into the collet as per the owners manual, and the cranked spanner has plenty of clearance, I have a shot of it still in the camera. __________________ *Harry*
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,256 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Harry This is a bit off the subject but I thought you would get a kick out of seeing the item below, for lifting the router up and down with a true read out...just some new stuff coming out for the router table... and I sure it's only the tip of the ice burg,new didital fence,didital Incra equipment for the router table and table saw,didital table saw,band saw.etc. the age of the didital computer equipment is coming fast and hard,,,and you know americans we want all the good things that we can find for the new home shop...the next thing will be a cabinet for the router bits that will just open with a button and it will have a picture of the bit on the screen that will give all the info about the bit and how to use it.. I want one http://www.jointech.com/smartliftdigital.htm http://pricecutter.com/product.asp?p...cd2=1187311670 http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=17320 http://www.nextag.com/router-lift/search-html review below http://www.rockler.com/blog/index.cfm?commentID=143 Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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S Bolton Registered User Forum Geek Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 487 View S Bolton's Gallery	Report This Post! I am wondering if anyone has experience with the MLCS horizontal router table? Well made? Worth the money? Thanks Steve Bolton
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,256 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Steve Yes and Yes and Yes see the link below for the one I have from MLCS http://www.routerforums.com/show-n-t...4-new-toy.html Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 08-16-2007 at 11:34 PM.
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,256 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Harry I know I'm being a pain but it looks like a matched set... Do this put a rubber gromet in the base of the collet nut, it can also be a faucet washer the hvy. duty type (1/8" thick) but it needs to be rubber so when you crank it down and the rubber will let it do so... press the gromet in the botton of the collet nut, just flush with the botton of the nut,,, now put one of the bits in the collet then put it in the router, then tighten it down with your hand then get the wrench out and grank it down,,,make a pass with it then take the bit out and do the same with the other bit....if it's matched set the parts will line on the dot... BUT Don't move the router up or down... The rubber gromet is a stop point for the bits don't push the gromet down when you put the bit in the nut...just a nice light touch.... Most faucet washer are right at 1/2" OD but sometimes you will need to clean the outside off it so it's clean with our any tits....I like to use the faucet washers because they stay in place unlike the rubber gromets.... Attached Thumbnails __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 08-18-2007 at 10:29 AM.
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harrysin Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,320 View harrysin's Gallery	Report This Post! I'm not sure Bj. the reason for the rubber as the makers of my Triton router state, NOTE: When fitting cutters, ensure the shank is inserted fully into the collet. I must have been lucky with the doors that I've made because I have re-adjusted the router and only the first time was there a slight error. It might be a case of "if you have not been told that something can't be done, you simply go ahead and do it"! The forum appears to be light-on for projects at the moment, so in a few days I will present a photo-shoot of a new little box using the Oak Park spacer fence and a little ski routing plus a square inlay set at 45deg. incl. making the template. __________________ *Harry*
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