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Old 08-28-2007, 04:30 PM   #1
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Sorry for not being here for so long. I thought I could start back right after the catarac surgery but no such luck. Now I've forgotten all thatI learned last year! I have a very low power router in my Oak Park table. It's not so much the power that's bothering me as is the difficulty changing bits. I want a router that uses two wrenches (like Bob uses) and lots of room to fit my large hands into when I do change them. I REALLY prefer two separate collet assemblies over one with an adapter. I never seem to line up the slits to properly tighten the bit. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:58 PM   #2
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Hi Bruce

May I ask what kind of router are you using in the Oak-Park router table and is it mounted to a pull out base plate..

I'm not sure what you are saying " line up the slits ) ???
This is not needed the norm for most routers....







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Sorry for not being here for so long. I thought I could start back right after the catarac surgery but no such luck. Now I've forgotten all thatI learned last year! I have a very low power router in my Oak Park table. It's not so much the power that's bothering me as is the difficulty changing bits. I want a router that uses two wrenches (like Bob uses) and lots of room to fit my large hands into when I do change them. I REALLY prefer two separate collet assemblies over one with an adapter. I never seem to line up the slits to properly tighten the bit. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:05 PM   #3
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I will name my favorite routers but ultimately you should handle the router and see how you like the feel.

Dewalt 625 = the most balanced router ever created (personal favorite)

Bosch 1619 EVS = the only router you’ll ever need, heavy and slightly higher center of gravity.

Toshiba M12v = if you can find one for 100-150 but the price has tippled on these.No bells and whistles just powerful and accurate.


Dewalt 621=2HP, the most compact and best dust collection.
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Bobi3, I now hava a Canadian "Rona" router. It has only a "push to lock" shaft lock button that is small, hard to push and sharp on the edge. It has no flat spots on the shaft to use a second wrench. There is about 1 inch clearance to change a bit. It IS mounted to the Oak Park removable phenolic base plate. The slits in a 1/4" adapter bushing should be lined up withthe slits in the motor shaft to properly tighten a bit.
Router is still my name, I have a Bosch and it too has no flats on the shaft to use with a second wrench.
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Bruce, the router I would suggest is the Bosch 1617EVSPK. This is the combo kit and includes the fixed and plunge bases, a PC style guide bushing adapter and a nice 2-1/4 HP motor with soft start and variable speed functions. Price should be around $200 for this set which will let you free hand rout with the plunge base and in seconds swap the motor into the fixed base which you table mount. You can also buy them seperate or get the motor with a D handle base. This machine uses the two wrench system. The 1613 and 1619 use a single wrench.
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Bruce, I'm not sure why you would want a new router that needs TWO spanners. Have you explored the TRITON, with this router the collet lifts ABOVE the table with the spindle LOCKED, requiring one cranked spanner for cutter change. I too don't know what you mean by lining up the slits, a reducing sleeve goes into the collet any which way.
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Hi Bruce

I think I see the error you are having,, are you using the standard base you should using the Plunge Base, it will open a new world for you... it's wide open so you can get into the router collet nut...

The split can and be anywhere.. it's made so the collet can crab the router bit..
I have a GMC router that's almost the same as the Rona one you have and it's a great router..

The one I have ▼
http://www.amazon.com/GMC-ATBR1500-R.../dp/B000EOQVWS
and I was lucky I got it for 45.00 dollars

Note about using the Plunge Base,, most will remove the springs but some times you don't need to if you have the hole in the base for a Allen key,,some of the plunge base plates don't let you see the hole for the Allen key, just take off the base plate of the stantard base and put in on the plunge base and drill a small hole in the Oak-Park base plate so you can use it in the router table...

If you don't have the Allen hole you can remolve the springs from plunge base quick and easy....most routers are about the same... roll pins or a nut to hold the spings in place...

http://www.rona.ca/webapp/wcs/stores...oductId=168408


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Bobi3, I now hava a Canadian "Rona" router. It has only a "push to lock" shaft lock button that is small, hard to push and sharp on the edge. It has no flat spots on the shaft to use a second wrench. There is about 1 inch clearance to change a bit. It IS mounted to the Oak Park removable phenolic base plate. The slits in a 1/4" adapter bushing should be lined up withthe slits in the motor shaft to properly tighten a bit.
Router is still my name, I have a Bosch and it too has no flats on the shaft to use with a second wrench.
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OK, I agree that the Rona router is a good machine but it still cannot be used with two wrenches. Due to my inherent unballance in wy wheelchair, it is much easier with the two wrench system.
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Hi Bruce

You may want to take a hard look at the Porter Cable routers,,I have about 10 of them , most use the 2 two wrench system...
the 690's and some of the other ones as well...

The 2nd URL below, is one of the PC routers I have in one or two of my router tables,they make it easy to change the bit in..you don't need to pop the router out of the table if you don't want to because they just unscrew easy from the standard base,then the router cuck is in clear view and you can use the wrenchs on it easy ...I almost always just lay it flat on the top of the router table and put on one wrench on and let it rest on the top and then use the other one to break the seal and replace the bit...screw it back in place and your set to use it...

http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-6...8414183&sr=1-6
http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-6...8414183&sr=1-1


NOTE*** If you want to see how I use the PC router in my table, just ask and I will post some snapshots ...


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OK, I agree that the Rona router is a good machine but it still cannot be used with two wrenches. Due to my inherent unballance in wy wheelchair, it is much easier with the two wrench system.
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