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paulcomi · 07-29-2006, 11:56 PM

I picked up a second 1 1/4" porter cable stamped metal wrench, but I find the wrench pair are thin overall and they don't work as well as the wider wrench pair you guys use. I checked at a few hardware stores as well as Sears and even an auto parts store and the 1 1/4" open end wrench they sell is oftly large compared to what you seem to be using. What wrenches are you using?

**bobj3** · 07-30-2006, 12:24 AM

Hi Paul

You can do what the router boys did/do ( Bob & Rick ) and pickup some clear plastic tubing and side it over the wrenchs or what I did was took some 1/4" thick walnut and glued it to the wrench with some Gorilla glue, looks good and it added mass to the wrench.

Bj

paulcomi · 07-30-2006, 01:41 PM

But, they appear to be using actual open ended wrenches rather than the cheap stamped ones. At least one of mine seem like it slips off the collet because it is bending. Its not because I'm tightening too hard. I'm not being overly aggressive compared to what I see Bob do with two wrenches.

Hamlin · 07-30-2006, 02:11 PM

Paul, I'm just curious, did you get these wrenchs from PC directly? You may want to get with PC and order new ones from them directly.

Just my $0.02 worth.

**bobj3** · 07-30-2006, 08:35 PM

Hi Paul
I think I know what you are talking about, in some of the shows you will see Bob & Rick use a thick set of wreches about 1/2" thick ,I think they had them made for them out of aircraft alum. stock you may want to drop a PM or email to Rick and ask him for sure and see if they are going to sell them but I don't think so.
If you have a metal band saw you can make a set, the flat alum stock you can buy off the net. (eBay)
You can also used a wood band saw with a metal cutting blade and run it at slow speed to make a set.

Bj

tscott · 07-31-2006, 10:40 AM

I use regular mechanic's wrenches and grind the thickness down on my bench grinder. With a little care you can make a neat appearing wrench.

paulcomi · 07-31-2006, 10:49 AM

I looked at those but the ones I saw were very long and large overall. Just curious what kind they happen to be. Also, are they 1 1/4"?

tscott · 07-31-2006, 10:53 AM

They are Blackhawk brand. I run Bosch router in my table so I use only one wrench .You might look for what we called "tappet" wrenches (for adjusting valve tappets). They are very thin but don't recall if they came in that large size.

**bobj3** · 07-31-2006, 10:54 AM

"regular mechanic's wrenches"
That's true but don't turn it BLUE or it will be come scrap iron...

grinding will take the temper right out of the tool if you don't do it with care.

Just a note about "tappet wrenches" they come in 1/2",9/16",5/8",3/4" about 12" long and about 3/16" thick,the set I have is a Craftsman but don't use them much any more because most eng.don't need to be adjusted anymore.(left over from the hot rod days)

Paul
You may want to look at buying the OFF SET type for routers,they go for 14.oo bucks ea.
about 3/16" thick, from 20mm to 26mm, about 7" long from the last bend.

Here's a snapshot of the set I have for my P.C. routers
http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2677

Bj

Hamlin · 07-31-2006, 05:12 PM

If you could afford the metal, and are good with a plasma cutter.. you could make your own wrenchs. To make them, really isn't that difficult at all. It's like just woodworking, just takes patience.

07-29-2006, 11:56 PM	#1
paulcomi Registered User Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Marino, California Posts: 57 View paulcomi's Gallery	What two wrenches do you guys use? I picked up a second 1 1/4" porter cable stamped metal wrench, but I find the wrench pair are thin overall and they don't work as well as the wider wrench pair you guys use. I checked at a few hardware stores as well as Sears and even an auto parts store and the 1 1/4" open end wrench they sell is oftly large compared to what you seem to be using. What wrenches are you using?
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07-30-2006, 12:24 AM	#2
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 7,143 View bobj3's Gallery	Hi Paul You can do what the router boys did/do ( Bob & Rick ) and pickup some clear plastic tubing and side it over the wrenchs or what I did was took some 1/4" thick walnut and glued it to the wrench with some Gorilla glue, looks good and it added mass to the wrench. Bj __________________ *Router Tables plans FREE, plus more* http://www.absolutelyfreeplans.com/W...p_projects.htm Router Tip Archive http://www.routerworkshop.com/router_tip_glossary.html Calculators http://www.routerforums.com/dynamic-calculators/
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07-30-2006, 01:41 PM	#3
paulcomi Registered User Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Marino, California Posts: 57 View paulcomi's Gallery	But, they appear to be using actual open ended wrenches rather than the cheap stamped ones. At least one of mine seem like it slips off the collet because it is bending. Its not because I'm tightening too hard. I'm not being overly aggressive compared to what I see Bob do with two wrenches.
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07-30-2006, 02:11 PM	#4
Hamlin Registered User Supreme Forum King Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Baldwin City, KS Posts: 1,374 View Hamlin's Gallery	Paul, I'm just curious, did you get these wrenchs from PC directly? You may want to get with PC and order new ones from them directly. Just my $0.02 worth. __________________ Ken (On temporary leave of abscense) "A VETERAN" "Wether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life". That is HONOR, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -Author Unknown
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07-30-2006, 08:35 PM	#5
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 7,143 View bobj3's Gallery	Hi Paul I think I know what you are talking about, in some of the shows you will see Bob & Rick use a thick set of wreches about 1/2" thick ,I think they had them made for them out of aircraft alum. stock you may want to drop a PM or email to Rick and ask him for sure and see if they are going to sell them but I don't think so. If you have a metal band saw you can make a set, the flat alum stock you can buy off the net. (eBay) You can also used a wood band saw with a metal cutting blade and run it at slow speed to make a set. Bj __________________ *Router Tables plans FREE, plus more* http://www.absolutelyfreeplans.com/W...p_projects.htm Router Tip Archive http://www.routerworkshop.com/router_tip_glossary.html Calculators http://www.routerforums.com/dynamic-calculators/
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07-31-2006, 10:40 AM	#6
tscott Registered User Jr. Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17 View tscott's Gallery	I use regular mechanic's wrenches and grind the thickness down on my bench grinder. With a little care you can make a neat appearing wrench.
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07-31-2006, 10:49 AM	#7
paulcomi Registered User Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Marino, California Posts: 57 View paulcomi's Gallery	I looked at those but the ones I saw were very long and large overall. Just curious what kind they happen to be. Also, are they 1 1/4"?
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07-31-2006, 10:53 AM	#8
tscott Registered User Jr. Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17 View tscott's Gallery	They are Blackhawk brand. I run Bosch router in my table so I use only one wrench .You might look for what we called "tappet" wrenches (for adjusting valve tappets). They are very thin but don't recall if they came in that large size.
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07-31-2006, 10:54 AM	#9
bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 7,143 View bobj3's Gallery	"regular mechanic's wrenches" That's true but don't turn it BLUE or it will be come scrap iron... grinding will take the temper right out of the tool if you don't do it with care. Just a note about "tappet wrenches" they come in 1/2",9/16",5/8",3/4" about 12" long and about 3/16" thick,the set I have is a Craftsman but don't use them much any more because most eng.don't need to be adjusted anymore.(left over from the hot rod days) Paul You may want to look at buying the OFF SET type for routers,they go for 14.oo bucks ea. about 3/16" thick, from 20mm to 26mm, about 7" long from the last bend. Here's a snapshot of the set I have for my P.C. routers http://www.routerforums.com/attachme...achmentid=2677 Bj __________________ *Router Tables plans FREE, plus more* http://www.absolutelyfreeplans.com/W...p_projects.htm Router Tip Archive http://www.routerworkshop.com/router_tip_glossary.html Calculators http://www.routerforums.com/dynamic-calculators/ Last edited by bobj3; 07-31-2006 at 11:16 AM.
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Hamlin Registered User Supreme Forum King Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Baldwin City, KS Posts: 1,374 View Hamlin's Gallery	If you could afford the metal, and are good with a plasma cutter.. you could make your own wrenchs. To make them, really isn't that difficult at all. It's like just woodworking, just takes patience. __________________ Ken (On temporary leave of abscense) "A VETERAN" "Wether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life". That is HONOR, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -Author Unknown
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