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@Jerry Bowen Sad to hear your physical condition isn't so great yet. I get more fatigued more quickly than just 3 years ago, but still good for several hours in the shop, knock wood. Regarding the Rikon 10 inch, I find it will cut really well (with a good blade) up to its full height. Remember that the advantage of a second saw is that you can keep a smaller blade installed. But as a fellow tool junkie, I had the money and I liked it so that's reason enough. My son in law will be inheriting a full bore shop.

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hinking about a second band saw that is deicated to narrow blades with a Carter Stabilizer installed. I'm pretty certain that this need is common for those with large saws that are used for re-sawing and don't like to have take the time to switch over from a re-saw set up to a set up for cutting curves with a blade designed for such cuts.

Until recently I felt that my 17" Grizzly was all that I would ever need and of course in one way it is, but the issue of change over has become an issue.

I have not been in the shop much lately but plan on being able to spend more time in the near future and this has brought me to start to consider the second saw.

I am wondering what others have done that dealt with this issue. My first choice for a second saw would probably be a 14" G0555, but am wondering if there is a saw that would work for me that cost less money. The larger Grizzly saw does almoat everything that I need a saw for. Just wondering what others have done.

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I have been thinking along the same lines. I ahve a 14 inch Jet that I would like to set up with a 1/4 or 1/8 inch blade like this, and then upgrade to a Laguna 14SUV for resaw work and other heavy work.

I think I could keep two band saws very happy....thank you for asking this question!
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I'm in the same situation. I have been looking at the 10" Rikon saw. Great reviews and only around $200. I've looked at it and its almost identical to its larger brother, the 14" saw. Can be used as a tabletop model or set up with legs. A really nice saw and it won't break the bank.
I prefer older American machinery when i can get it. Almost picked up a dandy old delta band saw from the 1950's that was build like a Sherman tank and in mint condition for $350, but my woodworking money went to Mr Lie Nielsen in Maine instead that month.

My band saw is a 14 inch jet that I picked up for $125 and came with a stack of walnut, oak, and cherry (about 20 board feet, not a ton, but a nice addition) and a mobile base...and a stack of blades...unused and in the box with many of the blades.

At least around central Ohio, band saws seem like the opposite of table saws, and lots of good machines are available used.

In the case of my saw, I knew the seller from Habitat for Humanity, and it was a well cared for one owner saw.
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I have the Laguna 14SUV with 1" Resaw King blade and never take that off. About all I use it for is resawing but I'll occasionally make other cuts if there are no curves involved. My primary bandsaw is a 1950 King-Seeley 12" with a 1/4" blade. I have a 1/8" blade for it but don't use it much. I think that saw gets used more in my shop than the table saw, jointer, miter saw, scroll saw, etc.
Laguna 14SUV is my next big ticket item, but I currently have 4 children (yeah 4) in college, so it is a this year or next year kind of a thing.

Glad you are happy with yours, I have heard nothing but good about this saw.
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I have had great luck waiting for deals on eBay. For my Jet 14" $41. For the 12" Craftsman that I later sold:$49.
My guitar loving son Joel picked up a barely used $6500 Tube amp for his guitar for $1200 this way.

Used and patient can yield huge dividends. I am a hand plane fanatic, and Just picked up three very nice hand planes very inexpensively this way.
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Why not just get a good scroll saw? It will do what the band saw does only better. I do up to1 /2" wood on mine but I don't have a need to cut wood that thick very often. If I know that I will be doing a lot of tight cutting I put the Carter on the 14" Rikon. Other than that I use the scroll saw for just about any tight cutting.
I have a scroll saw but often cut 3/4 inch and 1 inch material, hence the need for a band saw.
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I have the same problem. I am basically making picture frames lately, but my shop looks like I make all kinds of stuff all the time. Glad I could share the sale price for the little Rikon. Sale price is good til Jan. 26th, 2017. Thanks for your kind words. I like the way people treat each other on the Forum. Tom
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Now I'm starting to wonder if I might have a problem with the 4 5/8" limitation of the Rikon saw and that in the long run I'd be happier with a 14" Grizzly. Fortunately it doesn't cost money to think and ponder a decision.

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Just looked at the specs again the 14" Grizz and "duh" , realized that it only offers
1 3/8" more cutting height than the Rikon, hardly worth the extra money if that only issue has to do with the cutting height, ummmmm, more pondering.

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On a purely subjective note, I like the feel in operation of the Grizzly products better than the Rikon products, so Grizzly would get my money in this case even if it was more expensive.

YMMV.

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@Jerry Bowen Sad to hear your physical condition isn't so great yet. I get more fatigued more quickly than just 3 years ago, but still good for several hours in the shop, knock wood. Regarding the Rikon 10 inch, I find it will cut really well (with a good blade) up to its full height. Remember that the advantage of a second saw is that you can keep a smaller blade installed. But as a fellow tool junkie, I had the money and I liked it so that's reason enough. My son in law will be inheriting a full bore shop.
Excellent! Hopefully you can have grandchildren who will be making sawdust well into the future.

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Got a phone call from a good friend the other day. He is a member of the forum and had been watching this thread which is what prompted the call.

We had a good discussion about some issues in regard to changing blades on the large 17" saws that we both have a copy of. The end result of the discussion was that a second saw really is not needed. My wife was glad that he called by the way.

After some reviews of what is required to change blades and all we came to the conclusion that a blade change should be done much easier than what I had been doing. So, I'm going to do some practice at what we discussed and see if I can change blades a bit easier.

Changing blades of the same width is not an issue, it's when I have to go from a blade of one width to a blade of a different width that has been the issue as I have been taking the table off of the saw in order to set the lower thrust bearing to match the difference in the blades. I'm going to see if this adjustment can be done without taking the table off of the saw. I should say, I want to see if I can find an easy way to make that adjustment without removing the heavy table.

Does anybody want to speak to their experience at what I'm talking about?

The next issue would be that of going from a set up using a blade stabilizer to a blade that needs the guide bearings to be reset after they had been backed off when using the stabilizer. Setting the lower bearings may not be quite as easy, but will have to see.

Again, any comments?

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