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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-11-2017, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
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Dust collector remote DIY option

From an electronically/Electric challenged woodworker... Can this work?

I have a 13a remote switch in line to my HF 2HP dust collector. I want to upgrade the switch/remote and ran across this remote switch (below). Says it is a 30a 120v and will work with up to 800w inductive load. I have had no problem with 13a switch, I just want to upgrade to something that has some extra capacity just in case. I won't spend the money for the Long Ranger or IVac units.

YL-A1T 200M 220V 30A Long Distance One Way Remote Control Power Switch 3000W High Power Wireless Switch with Remote Control Sale - Banggood.com

Seems if it is what they claim it should be a good option for me. I bought one and I'm waiting for delivery. If it works I will likely try another for my compressor which is in the garage and the switch will control the circuit just inside the wall in my basement.

Anything I can do as a DIY project is what I am interested in. A commercially available plug in unit is just not my style.

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Oh, and any suggestions on a way to mount this remote would be great...
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As I read your post, a big red flag popped up with saying you want to a DIY electrical project in our subject, but then your first sentence says you have little or no experience with electrical work. This is not a good mix.

Here is my recommendation. There is a reason the remote switches for dust collectors are so much more expensive than most of the smaller remotes, like those for lights. They are designed around the much larger draws of power, especially during start-up.

I am not an electrician, but after looking at the specs and details on that remote, I do not think it would be appropriate for controlling the large motor on your dust collector. I think at best you are going to burn-out that unit fairly quickly. At worst it could lead to damaged equipment, and potentially to the loss of life and property due to fire.

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Tim if your concerned about more current capacity in the future , all you need to do is add a Contactor (basically a relay) .
I had a problem with inrush current and had to add one myself . Was a better option than upgrading my remote system imo , and I'm future proof .
It's probably neg 30 in my garage right now , but if you can wait I can take pics and draw a schematic for you .
It's pretty basic , and even a caveman can do it


I will say Mikes post makes some good points though . The potential for serious injury or death is always there when your not familiar with electrical, kind of contradictory to my caveman theory

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Tim if your concerned about more current capacity in the future , all you need to do is add a Contactor (basically a relay) .
I had a problem with inrush current and had to add one myself . Was a better option than upgrading my remote system imo , and I'm future proof .
It's probably neg 30 in my garage right now , but if you can wait I can take pics and draw a schematic for you .
It's pretty basic , and even a caveman can do it


I will say Mikes post makes some good points though . The potential for serious injury or death is always there when your not familiar with electrical
The electrician I had wire my 3hp DC put a contactor on it and a solid state emote controlling the contactor.
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I called the iVAC tech support about their remote and they recommended using a contactor and allowing the remote to control the contactor even for my Baldor 2 HP DC. The momentary high amp draw will burn out the remotes if a contactor is not used.
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I called the iVAC tech support about their remote and they recommended using a contactor and allowing the remote to control the contactor even for my Baldor 2 HP DC. The momentary high amp draw will burn out the remotes if a contactor is not used.
This pretty much collaborates with what I discovered with mine . Installed the Contactor , and issues over .
The inrush current was tripping it's resettable breaker after the forth cycle , and by installing a Contactor I never had any more issues . And it be configured for 120 or 240v if you change your DC

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That is what I have a large contactor that is activated by the cheap remote system.
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As a remote control to control the contactor that operates your dust collector of any size this looks like a pretty good choice. My only concern with it other than that is how large the buttons appear to be making them easy to activate, if you plan on hanging the remote on you, but at the price it looks like it may be a good low budget option, but drive a contactor with it, and let the contactor operate the dust collector or power tool.

You might also look around for a Christmas light remote control. It's the right time of year to try to find one cheap. Since only the contactor coil needs to be powered from the remote, heavy duty contacts in the remote are not required.

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Thanks for all the info guys. Sounds like a contactor in tandem with the remote I described is the way to go. Any suggestions for a brand/model and how they are wired would be great.

I did mention that I am electrically challenged in my original post. That was a bit modest. I was the electrical buyer/salesman for an Ace Hardware for a few years, so, my basic understanding of amps, watts and volts and their relationship is good. My understanding of contactors, capacitors, diodes, motor controls, etc. not so much.
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