Dust control

levon

hi Ken,

and a big thank you for your help. that is along the line i was thinking.

one question, ive seen the bag type dc's, but not sure about the cannister type? could you or someone show a cannister type?

p.s. when i do get a dc, im leaning towards what you have. i for one have to watch how much i spend.

your help is greatly appreciated!

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Hamlin

Hi levon,

Here are just a few from Grizzly. They can be a bit pricey but, well worth it in the end.

G0583 1 HP Canister Dust Collector

G0548 2 HP Canister Dust Collector

G0562 3 HP Double Canister Dust Collector

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Actually Levon it is doing just what I wanted it to do, it takes care of the dust. The reason for the JDS or Shop Fox is to take care of the chips and heavier material that the jointer and planer kick out. I am using a shop-vac for that purpose now but it was not designed for that the filter quickly clogs and it begins to get a little hotter than I would like.

I, unlike most woodworkers like a very clean and tidy shop--yes I am sick and I am afraid it is terminal. I clean the shop at the end of most days and dust The way I do that is kick the Jet on high and take the air-hose and blow the dust into the air, the Jet takes care of the rest or should I say dust. A couple times around the shop and it's pretty clean. As for the floor, put the jet on high and blow all the stuff to one corner and pick it up with the shop-vac. I am amazed at how well the Jet1000B gets rid of the fine dust. It filters the air in the room about 8 times per hour. In my shop it less the 10 min for the air to be filtered down to 1 micron.

I think I am leaning toward the Shop Fox for the CFM and the 220 V motor. The canister issue well yes I would like to go the way, but for now it is later. I see where Highland Hardware sells a new bag that is good down to .1 micron it is a Shaker Felt bag, whatever!!

Putting it outside, I plan to put it in the down garage and get everything in there dusty. The garage is on the end of the shop where the compound miter saw is.

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levon

thanks Ken,

that 2 hp looks great, a bit pricey, but look like it is a super machine.

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Mike

Levon, I take dust collection seriously but from a common sense point of view. Your dust collector needs to remove the junk from the machines. It is a real bonus if it removes the tiny particles you can't see. Canister type filters look like old fashioned car air filters on steroids, very big and tall. These will use a plastic bag to capture the dust. Now here is the important thing: there is a handle which moves around inside the canister to ruffle the pleats of the filter which knocks a lot of the dust free to fall into the bag. This simple cleaning prolongs your usage between dismounting the filter, taking it outside and blowing the fine dust out with an air hose. (While wearing a dust mask of course!) So much for the big stuff. The little stuff can be cleaned out of the air many ways. Sears sells HEPA filters for their shop vacuums. Many companies make ceiling mounted units with higher flow rates but these are costly. I use a large Honeywell HEPA filter designed for home and office use. You can find these at garage sales cheap, I paid $20 for mine. These have a high flow rate, 360º pick up and top mounted exhaust. Since they have a charcoal filter included they also remove any foul odors last nights supper might of generated...

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BigJimAK

I look at it this way:

I size my DC to capture not only the chips and sawdust, but also as many of the fines as possible.

I run my air filter while I'm in there to help with the ultra-fines that escape and remain suspended in the air. I leave it to run for a while after I leave (it has a timer) to continue to capture them before they eventually settle and are stirred up when I re-enter the shop.

I use a mask whenever I am working with a wood that creates a lot of fines (such as MDF), performing an operation where I know the DC isn't likely to get as many fines as I'd like and when I'm otherwise creating lots of fines (such as when random-orbital sanding, especially with a fine grit).

If I was going to choose a sequence of acquisition, I'd buy the mask first as (if you'll always wear it) it will protect your lungs.

Then I'd get the DC, to try to capture them at the source.

Finally I'd buy the filter, to clean up after me. :-)

Just one man's opinion..

Jim

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jw2170

Really depends on how many machines you want to be attached going at the same time.

Most report I have read seem to indicate that 650/700 cfm would be enough for a thickness planner or table saw.

James

Hamlin

The rating of the CFM's also depends on how far away you're going to carry the dust and chips. There are many variables in play when choosing a DC. The best of the best IMHO, is the cyclone DC units. Now, these are pricey.

I'm not understanding the running of multiple machines, since I'm only 1 person, I run only 1 machine at a time.

I can't add much more to what Mike, he's right on about the HEPA filters. If you check into household vacuum cleaners, these have become an standard item for them as well.

Again, just my thoughts.

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levon

ok, another question,

jerry is going to put his in a garage that is separate from his shop and that will cut down on noise and i presume he could open the garage door to allow it plenty of air.

but if you put it outside, wouldnt it need a roof over it. i dont know much about them, but im pretty sure you wouldnt wall it in. i guess it could be camoflaged with some lattice??

im just not knowledgeable about them.

p.s. Jim, how did you size yours?

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a1tomo

Yes, if outside, the DC needs to be protected from the elements. I outsmarted myself when building my shop by attaching a lean-to for my tractor. Never thought about a DC at that time, just worked out great for me. It rains a lot here, but doesn't blow very far into the lean-to.

I think the other guys have the sequence correct. First is the DC (after some kind of mask or respirator), then the air filtration.

I've found that the DC picks up a lot of dust and also the larger chips. The airborne, nasty stuff still needs to be eliminated as much as possible.

As a side benefit, I have the 2 stage setup thats separates the chips from the fines, and allows me to selectively use those chips for smoking fish and meats.

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