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**challagan** · 11-19-2006, 08:41 PM

Does anyone here have any experience with the barbed hinges and the saw blade and arbor that cuts the slot for these? Just curious as to how well they work. I see they are avialable from Woodcraft for about 40.00 for the arbor and blade. I think they are designed for the drill press. I read in one of Doug Stowes box making books that he uses one in a router table and uses a jig.

Just curious what you guys think of them.

Corey

**bobj3** · 11-19-2006, 11:47 PM

Hi Corey

I have not used them but it looks a bit tricky to put them in with chamfer and the rabbet cut that's needed to hide the barrel of the hinge and to let them fit right so the top will close all the way.

http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=3744

But if you give it a shot please post what you think of them.

Have you tried Bob and Ricks way to put in small hinges and the small piano type.
It's quick and easy and it hides the barrel with one pass of the router bit.

Bj

**challagan** · 11-20-2006, 08:33 AM

Bob I am considering buying a set up or maybe Santa will

I am not a fan of piano hinges myself. What do they do on small hinges. Must of missed that.

corey

**bobj3** · 11-20-2006, 10:57 AM

HI Corey

Once you have the box made and you have cut the top off ( with a slot cutter,band saw,router bit,etc.??) tape the box back up on 3 sides(with masking tape works well), chuck up a 1/4" solid carb. bit in the router table ,close the hinge and this is the height you want to use to set the bit height,then set the box on the table and move the fence so the bit will go into the space in the top and bottom,now for small hinges put some masking tape on the fence and mark it with the start and stop points you want the hinges to be on the box,then drop and plunge the bit into the box,then remove the tape and install the hinges.

If you have REAL small hinges (real thin ones) just use a smaller router bit,works great.
If you have a sq.end hinges just take a sharp knife and sq.out the corners.
Don't use a chisel, it will compress the wood in the corners and it time it will lift the hinges when it comes back in to place unless you use a REAL sharp chisel.

Just a note,,,,I use stop blocks on the fence inplace of the masking tape because it's dead on unlike the eye ball way (masking tape) and this is the last step in making a great box and the 2nd. thing someone always looks at.

B/4 you use this way find some scrap stock and tape it up and give it a test run you will like it because quick and easy and it looks great when your done.
Do it on two sides with the grain and across the grain this will give you the look of both.

Just a side NOTE***
This type of slot cutter works great for cutting the top off the box, 1/4" shank and use it without the bearing just with a small O.D. washer (SAE type or ANS) that's the same dia. as the lock nut. (2 or 3 of them)(the norm 1/2" O.D. nut,many router bits come with the small OD washer) and the router table fence.
http://www.mailwareweb.com/sommerfel...scb3a&d=75&b=1

Hope this helps
Bj

**challagan** · 11-20-2006, 10:04 PM

Thanks Bob for the info!

corey

**bobj3** · 11-20-2006, 10:41 PM

You're Wecome Corey

Once you give a try let me know what you think

Bj

11-19-2006, 08:41 PM	#1
challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,002 View challagan's Gallery	Report This Post! Barbed Hinges... Does anyone here have any experience with the barbed hinges and the saw blade and arbor that cuts the slot for these? Just curious as to how well they work. I see they are avialable from Woodcraft for about 40.00 for the arbor and blade. I think they are designed for the drill press. I read in one of Doug Stowes box making books that he uses one in a router table and uses a jig. Just curious what you guys think of them. Corey
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,305 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! Hi Corey I have not used them but it looks a bit tricky to put them in with chamfer and the rabbet cut that's needed to hide the barrel of the hinge and to let them fit right so the top will close all the way. http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=3744 But if you give it a shot please post what you think of them. Have you tried Bob and Ricks way to put in small hinges and the small piano type. It's quick and easy and it hides the barrel with one pass of the router bit. Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 11-20-2006 at 06:03 PM.
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11-20-2006, 08:33 AM	#3
challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,002 View challagan's Gallery	Report This Post! Bob I am considering buying a set up or maybe Santa will I am not a fan of piano hinges myself. What do they do on small hinges. Must of missed that. corey
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,305 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! HI Corey Once you have the box made and you have cut the top off ( with a slot cutter,band saw,router bit,etc.??) tape the box back up on 3 sides(with masking tape works well), chuck up a 1/4" solid carb. bit in the router table ,close the hinge and this is the height you want to use to set the bit height,then set the box on the table and move the fence so the bit will go into the space in the top and bottom,now for small hinges put some masking tape on the fence and mark it with the start and stop points you want the hinges to be on the box,then drop and plunge the bit into the box,then remove the tape and install the hinges. If you have REAL small hinges (real thin ones) just use a smaller router bit,works great. If you have a sq.end hinges just take a sharp knife and sq.out the corners. Don't use a chisel, it will compress the wood in the corners and it time it will lift the hinges when it comes back in to place unless you use a REAL sharp chisel. Just a note,,,,I use stop blocks on the fence inplace of the masking tape because it's dead on unlike the eye ball way (masking tape) and this is the last step in making a great box and the 2nd. thing someone always looks at. B/4 you use this way find some scrap stock and tape it up and give it a test run you will like it because quick and easy and it looks great when your done. Do it on two sides with the grain and across the grain this will give you the look of both. Just a side NOTE*** This type of slot cutter works great for cutting the top off the box, 1/4" shank and use it without the bearing just with a small O.D. washer (SAE type or ANS) that's the same dia. as the lock nut. (2 or 3 of them)(the norm 1/2" O.D. nut,many router bits come with the small OD washer) and the router table fence. http://www.mailwareweb.com/sommerfel...scb3a&d=75&b=1 Hope this helps Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J. Last edited by bobj3; 11-20-2006 at 11:44 AM.
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challagan Retired Moderator Supreme Forum King Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,002 View challagan's Gallery	Report This Post! Thanks Bob for the info! corey
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bobj3 Forum Contributer Supreme Forum King Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Littleton,Colorado U.S.A. Posts: 8,305 View bobj3's Gallery	Report This Post! You're Wecome Corey Once you give a try let me know what you think Bj __________________ PodCast videos RWS on YouTube http://www.routerforums.com/86898-post1.html Besure and click on the Up Arrow key ▲ on the Youtube video, you can select other youtube videos on router tables http://www.woodworkingonline.com/?s=dovetail Machine Cut ▼ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/200...cut-dovetails/ http://www.woodworkingonline.com/woo...podcast-store/ http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm Bob J.
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