challagan

Shortly after Christmas I bought the slotted hinge arbor and blades for box making. Today I finally had a chance to build the jig to hold the box on the drill press. The drill press table really helps here. Here is a photo of mine that I built a couple months ago:


Here is a photo of the jig used to hold the box parts on the drill press. It basically is a sliding fixture with stops added to hold the box in place, just have to slide it forward and I use the fence on the drill press table as a forward stop.


Here the fixture is mounted to the drill press table.


Here the arbor is in action:


Here is the hinges installed in the bottom of the box (note I flattened the barbs on a set of hinges and that way you can slip them in and out to use that set of hinges as test hinges for fit:


As you can see in this photo, a chamfer is required to allow the box to open and act as a 90 degree or so stop. Also you need to cut a rabbet along the edge to create a slot for the barrel of the hinge to sit. I didn't have time to do that today, hopefully Monday.


I will be doing a compete overview on my blog on this soon. I am very happy with this tool. It should work great for the smaller boxes that aren't to heavy. The saw blade cut right thru the hard maple with no problem. Thanks for looking.

Corey

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bobj3

Looking good Corey,NICE JOB

You know me, I wanted to see if I could use the Dremmel Saw Attachment to do it just for kicks BUT I didn't have a barb hinge so I had to make one out of some brass plate and some Alum.plate as well and a welding rod for the pin , they are a bit smaller but they did work out great about 1 1/4" wide and about 1" long on the barbed ends,rounded the same way.
I did take the Dremmel tool and put a dado slot for the barrell part of the hinge so it would drop in flush in the slot.
I didn't make a jig like yours I just did it free hand with the Dremmel Saw.

But now you got me going about the hinges and I need a link to get some PLEASE.
I don't mind making them from scrap but it takes to long and it looks like a great way to put in a hinge quick and easy and hide it on top of that .
Like you said because most of the small boxes I make I don't need a hinge the kids can swing on just something that will let the lid come up nice and clean.

I should note ***I had to move one to the outside edge on the box so the barrel would work right, with a v-type groove bit on the edge that holds the barrel part on the hinge down just a bit below the edge on the box, but it lets the lid come up all the way.

Bj

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challagan

Hey that is great. Here are a couple links for you. Looks like Rockler is more expensive on the blades and arbor but has a larger hinge available and hinges are much less expensive.

Woodcraft, where I bought my arbor and hinges...

http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=3744

Rockler...
http://www.rockler.com/search_result...=Barbed+Hinges

bobj3

Thanks Corey

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challagan

Bob, do you think that 1 1/2 inch long hinge would work in the same kerf as the 1 1/8 hinge? It would be nice to have that longer hinge on some boxes.

Corey

bobj3

I don't see why not, But I like the small ones, the smaller the better for me
Now if I could just hide them all the way that would be nice.
I have used the push in type for a look time and do like them but they are not cheap,they look like a short brass dowell that's about 1/2" long and you just drill a hole in for both parts and just push them in place.
They are hidden under the lid so to speak.
I have been trying to find them in plastic but have not found them yet so if you see some let me know.


Bj

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challagan

Thanks Bob, not sure what you speaking of on the push in type. Do you mean hinge pins that you just drill a hole in the side of the box and in the lid and insert the pin duing assembley? Like I used in this box so they the pins are hidden in the lid?


Corey

Joe Lyddon

Corey,

Nice box!!

What did you use for your hinge pins?

bobj3

Hi Corey

http://www.shop.com/op/~Barrel_Hinge...614?sourceid=3

Neat hinges but I need to find them in plastic. at about 1.50 pair, I lost the source I had.
They install quick and easy just drill a hole and put in a dowel centering point and tap the lid and drill the other hole and then just press them in and tighten the little screw and they are done in about 2 mins. for two of them.

I also use a earth magnets for the latch, they are put in the same way and are hidden as well, I get them from below at a great price.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=10


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Joe Lyddon

Bob,

Here are some nice little hinges like that...
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=3267