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Old 03-03-2007, 11:21 PM   #11
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Zach, I am not sure what model Bernie has (PSI I think) but they make them in different sizes. He said that it takes care of 90-95% of the dust in his shop. He said you need to size the unit to your shop. When he goes into the shop and he figures he is going to work for 3 hours he sets the timer for 4 hours. It will auto turn off and the air will be clear and surfaces nearly dust free. Sounds like a worthy investment but do check around.

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Old 03-03-2007, 11:25 PM   #12
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Hi Zach

I use this type in my shop BUT my neighbor is a 1/4 mile away, this type of fan will suck the chrom off the bumper not to say anything about saw dust.

But you'er right about not ticking off the neighbors. that's a no no .


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Hi BJ -

The fan idea seems decent - BUT - my neighbors and I actually get along great and I'd prefer to keep it that way.....

Corey -

Do those units function as well as advertised? From the reading the reviews - it would seem as though there wouldn't be any dust laying on the stuff in the garage, only the sawdust to sweep up on the floor. Is that actually how it works, or is there still a substantial amount of cleaning to do afterwards?

I just got done wiping more junk than I knew was in my garage, and $300 would be cheap to never do this again....

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Old 03-04-2007, 12:11 AM   #13
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Bob,

That's just a simple fan blowing into the neighborhood... yes?!

I have the typical portable box fan with a HD heater filter wrapped to the front with the power cord. When I go into a sanding session, I have that fan running pointing out the garage door (to the neighborhood ) as well as having the shop vac doing it's thing... but it doesn't get it all.

Is your exhaust fan pointing to a vacant lot (large empty space)?

It looks like your fan is so powerful, that it may blow all your dust out the side of your shop to only be sucked back in the front door! Yes?
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Zach, You are much better off collecting the dust as it is created than trying to get rid of it after its floating in the air. Harbor freight has dust collectors that work well for very reasonable prices, I believe around $89 for a small single bag unit and $159 for the double bag unit that I have. HF runs sale prices on these on a regular basis so chances are good you would pay even less. It is simple to hook one of the dust collection ports to a piece of plywood on the bottom of your table saw and the air flow will catch most of the dust. Dust collection hoses on your router will catch virtually all the fine dust but not the larger chips. Since large chips are easy to clean up I dont know why people would be crying about a product that is saving their lungs. Maybe they expected the vacuum attachment to come with a maid? You can also build your own down draft table from some plywood and pegboard and attach a dust collector to it. This way your routing and sanding dust is pulled down into the table from all sides of your project. There are plans somewhere on the forums for one of these tables. Last and not least the simple box fan with a furnace filter or a HEPA filter somebody is tired of paying big money to replace filters on will assist in capturing any residual airborne dust. These units work the best when mounted up high near the center of the room.
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Mike's way is the best way,get it b/4 it becomes airborn if you can.

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Corey - Thanks for making the inquiry - sounds pretty good.

Mike -

I am only using hand held routers and circular saws and a lot of sandpaper in this early stage in the hobby. From your explanation and in your opinion - would this product http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...667131-1608452 elimiate having my shelves etc... covered in fine dust? I have no problem with chips and the big stuff on the floor, I can handle a broom with the best of them. It is the small stuff covering everything in the garage that is bothering me and making me scared of my wife.

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Corey - Thanks for making the inquiry - sounds pretty good.

Mike -

I am only using hand held routers and circular saws and a lot of sandpaper in this early stage in the hobby. From your explanation and in your opinion - would this product http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...667131-1608452 elimiate having my shelves etc... covered in fine dust? I have no problem with chips and the big stuff on the floor, I can handle a broom with the best of them. It is the small stuff covering everything in the garage that is bothering me and making me scared of my wife.

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Zach,

IMHO...

That would possiblly handle your router work... BUT...
you would still need something to attach the router dust extraction hose to while routing (shop vac or dust collector). I think Mike was talking about a small dust collector from HF.

You said lots of sandpaper is used... that is probably where most of the FINE dust is coming from... A downdraft sanding table, with a shop vac or something better, would capture that dust.

I have no idea what fine dust comes from your CS.

Did you read all of the Customer Reviews, on Amazon, for this item?
http://www.amazon.com/708620B-AFS-10...2970291&sr=1-1
... it may be a big part of the answer...

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Zach,

IMHO...

That would possiblly handle your router work... BUT...
you would still need something to attach the router dust extraction hose to while routing (shop vac or dust collector). I think Mike was talking about a small dust collector from HF.

You said lots of sandpaper is used... that is probably where most of the FINE dust is coming from... A downdraft sanding table, with a shop vac or something better, would capture that dust.

I have no idea what fine dust comes from your CS.

Did you read all of the Customer Reviews, on Amazon, for this item?
http://www.amazon.com/708620B-AFS-10...2970291&sr=1-1
... it may be a big part of the answer...
You'd be surprised how much sawdust can get kicked up from a circular saw especially with a good high tooth count and with different materials. My table saw kicks up most of the dust in my shop. With a good blade smooth cutting blade the more dust that is kicked up.

Zach when you can a good alternative for sanding is when the weather allows, do it outside.

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Hi guys -

I look forward to working outside when the weather allows - but that will be a few months away and I don't know if I can hold out that long.

Joe -

I read most of the reviews and they appear to be very favorable. The unit is also onsale at Woodcraft this week. I just wonder if my expectations are unrealistic and my mental image of what the result would be false. I suspect that no matter what I do, there will be dust laying on the shelves and coats etc...and my hope would be to avoid that if at all possible. I don't see a new shop in my future, and I don't have a basement to retreat to. From Corey's description, it would seem that most of the dust is contained in the Jet unit,not on the shelves. I'm going to make a few more calls this wek to local shops and see if they'll giveme 2 mintues to talk to them, and see if Corey's experience is commonplace.

I appreciate all of the help,

Zach

BTW - I would say my time is spent 50-60% routing, with the reaminder spent finsihing, sanding, sawing etc...

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Zach, it only gets worse when you get more stationary tools. Planers and such kick up a lot of dust. My table saw is a contractors saw and they are difficult to contain. Most of the fine dust on a table saw is not from below but from fine cutting blades and the dust is ejected out the top of the blade. Ultimately I would get a sander that can be hooked up direct to your shop vac. Not all of them can, even if they are hook and loop type, many of the dust collectors on them are square based etc. My dewalt is worthless from that point.Bob and Mike are right in get it at the source but Circular Saws and hand routing are 2 of the toughest to capture. For your current situation I think the best thing you can do is get an air cleaner such as above and maybe even add a box fan with furnace filter material close at hand. I would also get as much input from other woodworkers as you can that own these. I also checked another forum I belong to with regards to these and past posts show that most of the guys thought they did a great job containing the dust. Some run 2 of the units for bigger shops. I don't think it will be 100% but it should greatly improve your situation. They collect a lot of dust quickly so you must keep them clean to keep them working efficiently.

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